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Larry is also the reason why all new Star Trek series have been cancelled:

https://www.cbr.com/paramount-dismantling-star-trek-9-year-s...

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I do love how the software world has the caricature of a comic book villain in Larry Ellison

"Do not fall into the trap of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison.

You need to think of Larry Ellison the way you think of a lawnmower. You don’t anthropomorphize your lawnmower, the lawnmower just mows the lawn - you stick your hand in there and it’ll chop it off, the end. You don’t think "oh, the lawnmower hates me" – lawnmower doesn’t give a shit about you, lawnmower can’t hate you. Don’t anthropomorphize the lawnmower. Don’t fall into that trap about Oracle."

— Bryan Cantrill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=2308s

I always thought of him as if he was angling to be a bond vilian but thats kind of a potayto, potahto thing

Well, he owns 98% of Hawaii's sixth largest (volcano) island, which certainly fits the motif.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C4%81na%CA%BBi

Well, that's a blessing at least. It was painful watching the butchering of Star Trek over the last decade.

Noooo Strange New Worlds was the best thing that ever happened to trek

The current season has been rather divisive, to say the least. I mean some of these episodes currently have IMDB ratings in the mid 4's to mid 5's range out of 10: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12327578/episodes/?season=4

Personally I didn't hate the gimmick episodes, but enjoying them sort of requires no longer taking the show seriously at all.

The gimmicky episodes were highly entertaining to my decidedly non-Trekkie wife. She loved the Star Trek Muppet episode ("Star Trek in Spaaaaaace") and the soap-opera episode.

As for taking the show seriously, I don't take any of it seriously. It's a telenovela, or maybe we should say Stellanovela. Most episodes build a fairly cohesive story, then break loose, and those old scientists have fun with the Star Trek universe. It's not like they're acting in a Chekhov play.

re: taking it seriously, I meant more in terms of whether it is "good art" vs disposable entertainment. On the whole, I felt that TNG and DS9 both eventually found the right balance of drama and humor, often with an intelligent underlying message about aspects of our society and culture. The modern Star Trek shows are sorely lacking in that area!

Eh, I mean TNG, which is probably the best-regarded series, had its fair share of duds, and not just in the not-very-good first season. In particular, I am thinking of the episode where Data's cat turned into a lizard.

> A transporter malfunction turns most of the crew into puppets while Spock fights to reclaim the ship.

The difference is the sheer number of gimmick episodes: so far half the episodes this season fall into that category. Did you actually watch that puppet episode you're quoting? Gimmick aside, it had one of the dumbest endings of any Star Trek episode I can think of.

Nope; haven’t seen any of this series. The streaming situation for it, at least in this country, is a bit of a mess. But it sounds from the description like a do-over of the cat lizard episode, more or less.

Ehh, maybe that notion times ten. These recent episodes are far goofier and more nonsensical than that TNG episode. (and again, my view on them is far less harsh than many of the reviews I've seen online...)

At least the TNG duds attempted some kind of sci fi technobabble explanation for whatever hijinks were occurring. With this season of SNW, we're getting plot devices like "missing resistance leader just happened to look identical to Enterprise's first officer by complete coincidence!" and "spooky derelict ship is haunted, no explanation even attempted!" ... there are worse ones I could reference but they're spoilers. I'm genuinely starting to wonder if an LLM is writing these scripts.

Lower Decks is so good too.

Picard was great! Romulans, Borg, Q, Data!! What more could you ask for?!

A plot?

lol burnnnn

I consider Picard Season 2 the worst season of TV ever made.

I could ask for them not to show graphic torture onscreen, yuck. Decided to skip Picard once I heard about that.

Being at least average and not shit

To be honest, I'm not sure to what degree my reaction to increasingly random dips into recent Trek has been around them just not being that good as a whole vs. just being tired of the franchise after many decades at this point.

The thing is Lower Decks exist. And is good. So there are people that can make good trek, they just are not given access to the live action stuff.

It's different. I'd probably hesitate to use the term "good" even if maybe better than some of the more recent live action I've seen overall.

Oh thank god. It hurt my soul watching the horror that is the new ST. Starfleet Academy was almost unspeakably terrible

I assumed the reason was Starfleet Academy was complete slop

Meh. The last Star Trek worth watching was TOS.

That's funny way of spelling DS9.

TOS was what it was. Some episodes were better (and aged better) than others. After a pretty week start, TNG was pretty solid. DS9 was good too far more often than not. While other series had their strong points, I'm not going to go to the mat to defend any of them.

No love for VOY? :)

I know it's been a long time...

There were definitely some good episodes and it probably got better over time. I'd probably give it a mild thumbs up overall with reservations.

The overall Star Trek experience since DS9 feels like:

Fans: "The last series was the worst ever!"

Star Trek producers: "Hold my beer..."

Fans: "You know, the old series weren't so bad in retrospect."

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