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I want a car that doesn't collect the data, not one that gives a pinky promise not to sell still collected data.

When given the choice between privacy and convenience, the great majority of consumers choose convenience over and over again.

I'm not sure what the solution is, but it's not going to be market based if you look at any recent trends. Interest in privacy is unfortunately a niche concern outside of places like HN.

Anyone who has tried to market a privacy oriented product knows what I am talking about.

Is it that the friction to use privacy is too high and not that interest in privacy is actually a niche concern?

I imagine its friction and not indicative of interest itself.

Which brand? And what's to stop them from changing your opt in toggle on after an update as we've seen countless companies do time and time again?

Since 2008 they have not changed the policy. But sure, the policy could be changed if they changed management. Tesla, to answer your question.

Haven't they been caught snooping on customers before with their in car surveillance?

Which brand is that if you don't mind me asking?

Tesla

https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sens...

Thanks for the laugh. Tesla recorded people having sex in their garage.

Sentry mode. A feature that is turned off by default. Then if you turn it on, You still have to opt in to Sentry at home above and beyond that. Then… have sex in your garage, sure, you can do that.

Then, beyond that, it was rogue employees who were looking at that, and they were caught. I don’t know if they were fired, maybe you do.

Rogue employees? There is a rogue CEO who data mined the entire U.S. population with his IT devshop called DOGE and you’re still talking about Tesla and data privacy? If this wasn’t HN I would use an expletive at this point. You can use your imagination, as I’m sure you know what you are. Get lost.

lol sure - provide their terms and maybe we can believe this trust me bro attitude

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