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> We have billions of Chinese phones and Windows laptops as proof of that

Nothing wrong with either of these. Your snobbery is showing.

By the way, normies have a negative impression of Microsoft, and also use their stuff.

> HN users are a tiny minority of social media users

I am not at all talking about HN users. I am not in an HN bubble. Maybe you are, and you are projecting this onto me.

> By the way, normies have a negative impression of Microsoft, and also use their stuff.

They've had a negative impression of Microsoft for three decades. Windows is still the dominant desktop OS.

Hence my original question; how much time does a name change buy you? Windows didn't need one, even though it's bloated spyware.