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> you see that he’s a creator of mirages who promises more than he delivers

There is no doubt he has promised many things that have never been delivered, or delivered extremely late.

He (his companies/teams) have also utterly changed the space launch landscape to the point of making the rest of the world irrelevant. Changed the energy market across the globe, delivered exceptional electric vehicles and (finally) put a car on the road for public use with no mirrors, steering wheel or pedals. The production line is also world leading, as stated by every auto CEO that has toured it.

Does he over promise and exaggerate? Undoubtedly.

But he does also deliver.

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>Does he over promise and exaggerate? Undoubtedly.

>But he does also deliver.

Shotwell deserves 99.99% of the SpaceX credit over Musk. anyone who says differently needs to take off their Musk-coloured glasses

also there are very good reasons no one else has released cars on public roads with no mirrors, steering wheels or pedals.

John Carmack says differently. What colour are his glasses?

Does he actually deliver? Isn't SpaceX ran by grownups that are not him? Isn't it well known that when he's actually involved in trying to deliver that he gets in the way and slows everything down?

> delivered exceptional electric vehicles

Tesla's ranking for quality and reliability and many cases of fraud regarding warranty repairs would disagree rather heavily with "exceptional".

And your analysis ignores his many, many business failures and his overall negative affect on things and culture.

John Carmack is someone whose opinion is worth a heck of a lot to me. If he vouches for Musk as a hands-on rocket engineer, I’m not going to argue with him.

Tom Mueller also seems to explicitly support this

One narcissist opining on another narcissist isn't what I pay attention to.

> If he vouches for Musk as a hands-on rocket engineer

Employees have said otherwise. There was one report where Musk barely understood how to run a Python script.

I’m sorry but Python ecosystem is a sick joke, and it is not discrediting that someone who doesn’t deal with python every day isn’t fluent on the magical commands for running pip3 within venv.

To this day I still don’t remember what the command is to activate a venv. I wouldn’t touch that horrible language[0] if I didn’t have an LLM to deal with it for me.

[0] that’s unfair, it’s actually a very nice language and I like it a lot, but the toolchain surrounding it is disgusting

He is the archetype of creation by exhortation. How many people destroyed their health trying to make FSD work by the end of this year for 10 years?

As someone who uses it everyday, it's a very impressive piece of technology, is it not?

What does FSD stand for, remind me.

Are their Teslas driving around Austin right now without human drivers - yes or no ?

If you need a geofenced area, you don’t have real self-driving! -- some real jerk in 2019

Something that it isn’t.

Ok and how about his character as a human being?

I’ve never met the guy, but many reports are very bad.

> Changed the energy market across the globe

... Wait, how's that?

> delivered exceptional electric vehicles

I mean, I'll give you 'exceptional'. Not exceptionally _good_, though.

> He (his companies/teams) have also utterly changed the space launch landscape to the point of making the rest of the world irrelevant

For now. Other countries are catching up, same as they are with electric vehicles.

> Other countries are catching up

Are they? Rocket Lab is near me, I know a lot of people working there. They haven't flown Neutron rocket yet. Meanwhile SpaceX is already planning to sunset Falcon 9 which is same scale as Neutron. I don't see them being very competitive with Starship, despite being so much cheaper.

countries implies plural. Mention two

News at 10: future products will surpass current products.

That is always true, in every industry.

until your civilisation collapses, then it stops being true.

Delivers an ungodly amount of space pollution that's for sure.

The other posters in this thread seem to blame Glenn Shotwell for that

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