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I think it's very clear that DeepSeek is obviously the best AI lab in the world.

Every model release seems like it packed with wonderful research and advancements.

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> I think it's very clear that DeepSeek is obviously the best AI lab in the world.

It's pretty clear they're the best at what they're optimizing for - which does seem aligned with what a lot of people on HN want from models - but not everyone...

Considering the fact that Google/Anthropic/OpenAI have WAY more compute and the race is this close, it's obvious that DeepSeek/GLM/Qwen teams are better or we're approaching a wall in terms of progress.

US gave China a gift by restricting GPU, they made them more resourceful. Too much money/resources is often a disadvantage.

Actually

Quickly they'll find a way to commodify the tech

Same happened with electric cars (modern Teslas are joke in comparison with BYD). Same will happen with AI

History has shown that restrictions promote innovation and ingenuity.

Not only compute, but more money and people.

Also data. US companies are actively using ongoing conversations to further tweak their models. Possibly even stealing a SOTA math solution.

Often times these limitations for you to be creative. When you can't just throw more processing power at the problem you figure other things out.

They're likely operating with 100x less compute than OpenAI.

On top of that, they don't make all BS statements or malicious tricks used by some unnamed entities.

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