What exactly went wrong for this catastrophe to happen?
What exactly went wrong for this catastrophe to happen?
The AfD's only selling point is that they'll end immigration.
Here's what happened: 2.6 migrants coming to Germany in 2022 alone. Net migration into Germany in 2022: +1.4 million.
There are many germans (and many people in the EU) who don't like to see mass-migration from Africa and the middle east.
It's those who let that happen (and pushed for it) who are responsible for people voting for extremist political parties.
The same is happening in France and even Gabriel Attal (ex french prime minister) said France failed to control both its legal and illegal migration and that now he wants to only allow in migrants who are coming to actually work (Gabriel Attal is probably going to be a candidate to be the next french president).
You cannot look at the AfD and say "bad AfD" / "evil neo-nazis germans who voted for them" and not take a cold hard look at what happened with migration in the EU these last years.
Ask them their opinions about Jews, too.
Yes leftists are the least likely to know AfD supporters.
>Ask them their opinions about Jews, too.
The most openly antisemitic groups in Germany are leftists, so, I don't want to ask them about their awful opinions about the Jews.
In fact, which antisemitic leftists are close to governing anywhere in Germany right now? Have any antisemitic left party reached 44% of the vote anywhere?
And third question you will certainly answer without fail: which party wants to talk less about the Shoah and uses nazi slogans casually in its communication?
Yes.
>In fact, which antisemitic leftists are close to governing anywhere in Germany right now?
Hopefully none of them.
>Have any antisemitic left party reached 44% of the vote anywhere?
Thankfully not.
>And third question you will certainly answer without fail: which party wants to talk less about the Shoah and uses nazi slogans casually in its communication?
The leftist parties that have leadership leaving over antisemitic worries: https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-825929
Can you please tell us about your first-hand experience with AfD supporters?
> The most openly antisemitic groups in Germany are leftists, so, I don't want to ask them about their awful opinions about the Jews.
I think you meant to write "anti-Zionist" instead of "antisemitic."
Certainly the Jews don't think the AfD is their friend. https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/2026-09-07/ty-arti...
They showed up to vote in democratic elections whilst their opposition seemed to ban them.
>I think you meant to write "anti-Zionist" instead of "antisemitic."
No, I meant antisemitic.
>Certainly the Jews don't think the AfD is their friend.
Certaintly the Jews dont think DL is their friend when party leadership is leaving over antisemitism worries. https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-825929
And there are many Germans and others who don't like to see Jews in positions of power. Were the Weimar Republic centrist parties at fault for not "remigrating" Jews before the Nazis took power?
Don't you guys have the heartless Hartz IV reform for years?
The problem, as in the US, isn't too much social help; it is too much social help for people they hate. They want the state to give them handouts, they just want it reserved to themselves, who are better, because they were born that way, and not "those other people", who are naturally lazy, because they were born that way.
Many things.
"most popular party nationally"
But not as bad as it sounds, because we have many different parties, and the majority is not AfD.
It's difficult to convince people in an idea if your goals are noble. If they are not, it's a lot simpler. The basic fear is that they will lose what they have right now and are easily manipulated into magnifying those fears.
Are they aware that the AfD wants to introduce homeschooling?
https://www.news4teachers.de/2026/05/afd-will-schulpflicht-f...
Probably not, right? I mean, unless they're criticism is that they totally would love to teach their kid all these things much better than they do in school, but the kid won't accept homeschooling in the afternoon when it already went to school in the morning, but I kinda doubt that's their issue.
Anyways, thanks and kudos for talking to and listening to them. I think our society really fucked up in that regard. I have to think of things as old as "Deine Gewalt ist nur ein stummer Schrei nach Liebe.... ARSCHLOCH!", if you know what I mean... then we rested on being better than the poor conspiracy theorists and "Covidioten" and whatever. Rarely do we try to work with people we find "too disagreeable". And now we have the salad :(
I don't get how they make the jump that this is the fault of immigrants, LGBT or the Green.
My conclusion after seeing trumpism is not that they are suffering because of external factors (left behind, abandonned by the state, et .) and thus turn to grifters selling them the Moon: their poverty has the same origin as them getting suckered by grifters: an internal inability to assume failure, learn from mistakes and improve, instead blaming everyone else but themselves, and thus being stuck at the bottom of society as it should be. Grievance from losers who will never, ever admit any wrongdoing.
That's the only explanation that makes sense to me, without calling lots of people Nazis/fascists/communists etc.
And turnout was way, way up, indicating that a lot of people went out to vote.
Like, I dislike who they voted for, but as a democrat, I want more people to vote so I'm a little conflicted at the moment.
A catastrophe named democracy. Leftists are rejecting democracy and embracing autocracy to get their way.