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ND is usually a bit sad, as it makes the thing a dead-end.

The magic of the web has always been that things would continuously morph through being reinterpreted and all, and that just doesn't happen with ND.

I can of course see the valid reasons why one would pick that license, but it's still.. kinda sad that it's culturally dead.

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I discussed NC in my other comment. But, yes, ND is arguably counter the whole remix culture that was supposedly part of the impetus for Creative Commons in the first place. I do kind of see the logic behind prohibiting, say, a remix of a video or photo in a way that misrepresents the subject. But I also don't particularly like it.

True enough; philosophically, I am still in the BY camp (a.k.a. BSD/MIT/etc.), and I do not particularly care about the NC part, but ND is increasingly important for non-code. But if they could do even the BY properly, it would be a step to the right direction (and, to some extent, I think they're doing that).

Huh. Can you elaborate why you view ND as increasingly important, whereas NC bothers you less?

Because for me, it would be the exact other way round.

ND is important for those who do "authoritative writing" (for a lack of a better term); i.e., when you write with your real name, you do not want nonsense and disinformation associated with your name.

Ah, yeah, in the meanwhile I've also googled your nick and saw that you're in academics.

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks!

Yes, I think of it more in the context of photo and video integrity, but you can certainly imagine an unscrupulous individual rewriting something and changing the meaning. Of course, I doubt a license would stop that person.

Doesn't CC BY require to say what you changed?

If a person would ignore one part of a license, they may also ignore other parts.

... Then why would they care that it's ND?

Not really. You're supposed to attribute the original creator. And if I did make major changes/additions I'd find some way to flag that. But you don't have a Github-style change log.

Not really, but you can't just distribute a changed version as if it were original. That's just as illegal as if it were ND.

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