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That's basically the comment I was just going to write but you made me not need to.

We need simpler protocols and formats, especially those that are used over the internet. I want everyone to really start fighting for this.

I always use a browser that doesn't run any scripts (w3m) for both this reason and others. It hurts when I see websites that don't work without js. A bit funny though that this page is one of them so I was not able to read it.

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We have them, and have had them for a long time. Nobody wants to use them.

> Nobody wants to use them.

Wikipedia is basically the most popular application of all time and it doesn't rely on javascript. People just generally don't give a shit about where their money goes.

I don’t think the parent comment was talking about html, css, and https. Rather something like Gemini.

I don't see the distinction—the core pitch of gemini is the very fact that it's not tied to any of these technologies.

> People just generally don't give a shit

The whole biosphere is over there in the corner, weeping.

> We need simpler protocols and formats

But we do! It doesn't get much simpler than HTML/CSS/JS. It's just abused to make apps instead of web documents.

There is no possible interpretation under which JS fits “simpler protocols and formats,” and no world in which JS could form part of a truly secure network client environment.

Hm. HTML, maybe. CSS and JS? No way. View the CSS here sometime:

https://a.singlediv.com/

That you can do complicated things with it does not make it complicated.

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