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Theoretically, can Nvidia direct Hugging Face to sue OpenAI now for the hack? Surely they could find some interesting stuff in discovery :)

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I was also theorizing that part of their acquisition was to get more intel on that, though I feel like in practice that whole thing right now is just theatre for inflating the cybersec market

The OpenAI web page on the Hugging Face incident is so slick that it basically confirms that the entire incident was a marketing exercise.

It’s obvious that designers and other content specialists spent multiple days crafting this page.

https://openai.com/index/hugging-face-incident-and-the-road-...

the last thing nvidia would want is to make ai look more legally risky

to say nothing of their massive investments direct and indirect in openai

Yep. In fact, eliminating that risk on OpenAI's behalf was probably a small factor in the acquisition

There was this summery about it, not sure how you'd need more intel - the technical details of the attack are ephemeral

https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/openai-huggingface

Why would they sue OpenAI, openai is their one of biggest customer.

Why would they sue one of their most important customers?

Not to mention that they own a 10% stake in OpenAI

why would they sue their client ?! what does that say to all their other clients ?

Clients sue other business partners all the time, that doesn't mean they stop working together. There's lots of examples of this.

I suspect there are very few examples of it when they are as entangled and invested in them as Nvidia is in OpenAI.

no they don't - not when the lawsuit would affect the demand for the thing they're selling

There is a particular problem with this view. Yes, you learn how many lawsuits occur per year, but you are clueless on the base rate of actions that could potentially lead to lawsuits.

Is it a 1:10 ration, 1:1000, 1:100000?

You just don't know because companies don't tell you this information. If for example there were a magic oracle that forced every suitable action into a suit, would the entire legal system of the US instantly explode?

Or, alternatively, they can now direct Hugging Face not to sue...

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