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Programmers have very little understanding of computers, in general.

They'll think hard about a beautiful unrealistic idealisation of the problem, and/or treat a software abstraction as if it's the underlying reality, e.g. (of the latter) thinking networking starts with HTTP and languages start with JavaScript.

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Can you please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49512349 and, in the future, share some of what you know instead of putting down others?

Just read the contract from the other side! If focusing on idealistic software abstractions instead of the problem is bad, the implication is that focusing on the problem is good. If treating a software abstraction as the underlying reality is bad, the implication is that looking below it to the actual underlying reality is good.

Agreed, except IME this is "junior web developers" rather "(real) programmers" in general.

Mel wouldn't. But Mel isn't programmers.

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