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I think many people would consider 60fps to be a minimum and 30fps to be almost disorienting, even for casual games.

Gamers often go for 120-240Hz monitors even.

Last time I went to the movies I didn't have a good time watching "motion" at 24Hz on a large screen while used to watch motion at 240Hz on a small screen.

I felt I was looking at a powerpoint presentation or an animation made at the edge of a (paper) notebook.

The cinematic obsession with 24 FPS is so stupid…

But those are 24 real frames. Not predicted ones like in your favourite Youtube video.

40 fps could be a much more workable minimum, it looks quite smooth, wish it was more commonplace of a target instead of 30.

40fps is probably 30fps with poor frame pacing. Most displays are 60Hz so there’s no benefit to being any non fraction of that, and you are likely to have issues with pacing if you are at a non standard frame rate.

> Most displays are 60Hz

This was true even a couple years ago, but these days, most mid-range and above TVs [0], phones [1], and monitors [2] support 120Hz, which is a nice integer multiple of 40Hz. But lots of these devices default to 60Hz (or slower), so you can't really rely on most people having this enabled.

[0]: https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/table/196699

[1]: https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nDisplayFramesMin=120

[2]: https://blurbusters.com/faq/120hz-monitors/

But not of 23.976 or 29.97, alas.

TVs will almost certainly support either those frame-rates or a multiple of them like 119.88. And some even support variable frame rates so a "120 Hz" mode could display effective any frame-rate below that with precise timings.

No, not very many people would say that. Console games for many years were 30 FPS tops, and people were just fine with it. It's only a small but vocal minority that insists on 60 FPS as some kind of minimum.

> and people were just fine with it.

They didn't have a choice. It was literally "be fine with it" or "don't play most games". Console players complain now if a game only runs 30fps, because you can't really go back. It's just not possible to play some genres at 30fps.

This whole discussion makes me think of the old days, when I had a really outdated computer. I was playing Counter-Strike semi-competitively at around 15 FPS, and I didn’t see anything wrong with it...

Console gamers would say that mandatory spankings improved the experience if the marketing told them so.

Speak for yourself bud.

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