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Show me a language that old without lots of cruft. The worst thing you can find is the standard library, which is just an unsolvable problem.

That's my point. PHP is still an old language with lots of "baggage", just like python is an old language with lots of "baggage".

Just like C# has baggage. Or R has. Or Go, to some extent. This is a non-sequitur.

I don't disagree with any of that. The context for my comment was (paraphrased):

GP: python has baggage because it is old

P: that can be changed. Look at PHP

Me: PHP still has baggage, despite its evolution. You can't really get rid of it without making major breaking changes.