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Comment by nemomarx | Hacker News Reader

Does it trigger on non AI images? The post doesn't say so at least.

It does kind of say: The GUID is coming from the moderation endpoint, which is hit when you generate a local or cloud AI image based on your prompt. If there is no prompt, there is no endpoint, and likely no GUID.

Obviously Paint could have been watermarking prior to AI though, but this specific AI watermarking appears to be only that.

The fact that local ai image generation uses an online moderation API is a bit worrying too....

Why not just mod the app to not call this API?

Since the watermarker runs locally, you could also do the reverse: generate some porn with a different open model, then run that code to tag it as "Content watermarked by Microsoft Responsible AI"

Probably both so they can change what they censor without waiting for you to run windows update and also so they can collect your information (IP, timestamp, etc) to associate with whatever you did

I don't think they use a model that would run smoothly on most hardware that normal people use.

Besides, you need to sign-in and pay to use that feature. It's very obvious that's not local.

did you even read the article? you're wrong on all points.

Frankly, I only skimmed it. Now I see that "On Copilot+ PCs, image generation is local but prompt moderation remains remote".

I don't have a Copilot PC, but if you still need to pay MS to run the model on your own hardware it's laughable.

No, you don’t need to pay for using on-device models.

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