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Concrete is a generally defined as any mineral aggregate (so rocks and stones) mixed with a binder (normally cement, but bitumen in the case of asphalt).
As for why roads are normally made out of “normal” concrete, it’s very expensive to build roads like that. Pavements are cheaper to build out of concrete because they only carry the weight of pedestrians, not lots of rolling vehicles. You need a pretty thick slab with rebar in it if you want to build a road surface from it, due to how weak cement concrete is under tension. Asphalt concrete cheats by being flexible, so minor imperfections in the surface or sub-base don’t become sources of critical failures (although they can become pot holes). Asphalt is also cheaper and easier to patch repair, but doesn’t last as long as proper cement road surfaces.
It's just like when saying "man vs animal", everyone knows that man is a type of animal, but it's implied that it's "man vs non-man animal".
Sounds like the comparison isn't between asphalt and non-asphalt concrete, but between asphalt concrete and cement concrete. Unless the only two possible aggregate binders are asphalt and cement, but that seems unlikely to me.
Concrete is a material that uses any binder with rock aggregate. But in everyday usage people mean to refer to cement concrete.
Asphalt is a specific type of concrete that uses a bituminous binder. So asphalt vs non-asphalt isn’t very helpful because non-asphalt either means nothing at all, or any other concrete that uses a non-bituminous binder, and there are plenty of other options.
Clearly GP was intending comparison to be to cement concrete, rather than say, toothpaste concrete, PVA glue concrete, or a number of other technically valid concretes, but obviously not practical.
They are now paving the concrete roads in Plano with a temperature resistant asphalt.
The road noise difference is palpable
> Pavements are cheaper to build out of concrete because they only carry the weight of pedestrians, not lots of rolling vehicles.
> You need a pretty thick slab with rebar in it if you want to build a road surface from it, due to how weak cement concrete is under tension.
Maybe. OTOH the bays of bus-stops tend to be made of the rebared thick slabs in a town with higher traffic I happen to know. Since about a decade at least. Before that there were always ruts in the asphalt, so deep they needed to be fixed again and again. Not so with the rebared slabs.
A lot of states use JPCP now for highways that doesn’t require rebar.
I knew a city manager that got a city out of a major projected shortfall, without cutting any services, by investing in redicing long-term expenses.
He was celebrated for it, then fired, because the asphalt company that lost its contract had more political sway than the parks and recreation or public education departments that he fought for.
Ideally, put in concrete roads that include conduits.