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Anyone has any idea if this changes current situation with nfc payments? Currently many banking apps do not work, and google pay is just unavailable, to my understanding it was related to secure chip on phone - as graphene wasnt "stocked" android os approved by google, i dearly hope this chnages with motorola

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Tap-to-pay is available on GrapheneOS via Curve Pay in the European Economic Area + UK, PayPal in parts of Europe and many European banking apps. Google Pay will likely continue banning using GrapheneOS for the foreseeable future until regulators crack down on Google's overall anti-competitive behavior with Android and Google Play.

90% of banking apps do already work on GrapheneOS:

https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa...

A growing number of the apps banning using GrapheneOS are choosing to start permitting it. A small number of apps are permitting it by relaxing their Play Integrity API checks but most aren't willing to do that. A growing number of apps are implementing support for standard Android hardware attestation and permitting the GrapheneOS verified boot keys with it. We provide a page guide explain how to do that:

https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-gu...

Our partnership will Motorola will help get the apps banning GrapheneOS to start permitting it through GrapheneOS becoming more mainstream and eventually being considered the stock OS on certain device variants.

I hope it just me, but honestly I’m EU citizen, and wasn’t able to get through curve verification process. No reasonoble support.

Revolut for example works but many other banking apps rely also on high level of play integrity, as you describe.

I wish ppl behind this fantastic os strong nerves, you fight our freedom. Its appreciated.

I have a GrapheneOS phone and I pay with Curve.

I had plenty of troubles with curve, garmine watches is alternative, but fingers crossed that motorola phones works better

Me too.

My two requirements for a device are:

* Being able to pay for stuff

* My blood glucose sensors work (Librelink)

If they worked on a dumbphone, I'd have a dumbphone.

Tap-to-pay is available on GrapheneOS in Europe. Your profile implies you're in the UK where Curve Pay is available. There are also banking apps in the EU with working tap-to-pay but we aren't sure if any of the UK banks provide it without Google Pay.

90% of banking apps do already work on GrapheneOS:

https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa...

> If they worked on a dumbphone, I'd have a dumbphone.

A dumb phone won't provide any form of secure calls or texts. People should migrate away from carrier-based calls to the extent possible rather than towards it. A dumb phone is also entirely reliant on cellular instead of being able to use Wi-Fi instead.

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