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Zitron is far more negative when it comes to the utility of LLMs than I am, but dear God would it be satisfying to watch him be proven right on the financials.

His as-of-late frequent appearances on Bloomberg, CNBC, and Scott Galloway's podcast, as well as his collaborations with Ed Elson from Galloway's podcast must feel like a great vindication for him already. Quite impressive for a person who is self-taught in that area, just over the past two years.

edit: And, of course, the post is flagged. We must bury our heads in the sand again.

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I had to use Google to find the comments after I read the story. Y-combinator moderation is far from invisible.

> but dear God would it be satisfying to watch him be proven right on the financials.

I don't get why there are so many people who need Zitron to be wrong. It reminds me of back in the days when people still liked Elon and every criticism of him or Tesla must be a short-seller spreading lies to move the price.

I think it's pretty easy to slot Ed's predictions into your possibility space even if you're still betting on a different outcome being more likley. Something else is going on.

Doesn't look flagged to me. Though it triggered the flamewar checks I think

#142 now when it was on the front-page mere minutes ago: I guess, TFA is way too exaggerated & seeped in avoidable animosity to warrant it.

It’s now unflagged, but flagging seems to have suppressed it mightily when it mattered.

Zitron is really really good. He taught me the strategy of "screenshot all the wild AI-bro claims" to keep track of them and call them out when it all collapses. The comments here villifying him are wrong and unhinged. Sometimes you need to be disliked a little to correctly predict the future.

>"screenshot all the wild AI-bro claims" to keep track of them and call them out when it all collapses.

But have you done the same for Zitron? Because the AI-Bros have consistently been more accurate and Zitron consistently pretty wrong.

Zitron proclaimed in (early) 2024 that LLMs were stuck because there was no more data to use, and synthetic data ruined models, so we were already at the brink of collapse.

Zitron predictions regarding LLMs, as technology, are meaningless. Literally nobody can predict the future, and he's not a computer scientist. What matters is his thesis for things that have actual numbers that can be verified. Look at the numbers and his claims, and decide for yourself if the thesis is valid

It’s far from vindication. All these TV networks have slots dedicated for extreme doomers to come in and say “the sky is falling! There’s going to be a recession soon. Sell everything!!” Been seeing it every day for 15 years now.

They generally don't show their hand, Zitron has shared his complete thesis openly

Time will tell.

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