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"RIP Charlie Kirk

I hope many more debate nerds carry on his quest to engage young people with words, not fists."

If this statement - a urge to engage in peaceful debate, not violence - makes you hate him, then I see the problem rather with you. I mean seriously, do you like civil war? Because this is what happens when people don't talk anymore about their disagreements, but physically fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkKo1_RP_0c

Mildly funny, but not sure what your point is here?

Charlie Kirk literally formed a campus watch group to police professor's speech. He had *zero* real commitment to free speech.

Which makes Kling (and you), either too ignorant to proffer an opinion, or deliberately duplicitous.

The problem is that it's urging you to use words against people who are using fists. That is, it's urging you to self-sabotage and lose.

It's quite possible the statement was written by a naive person who doesn't realise this. Lots of people don't realise this.

Hm. Charlie Kirk was not urging people to use fists as far as I know.

Well, if you want to be more pedantic, he urged people to use guns, and that's worse.

And where exactly?

I didn't know who Charlie Kirk was, and no facts about DHH other than him being Rails creator.

"will never be awesome" is missing some quantifier about US-centricity.

> US-centricity

Andreas Kling is Swedish, DHH is Danish, fascism originated in Europe.

Italian fascism originated in Italy, but if you broaden the definition of "fascism" to include Nazism (as Adolf Hitler did), then there's an argument that it originated in the 19th century, in many parts of the world, including the United States. Among others, Adolf Hitler took inspiration from Madison Grant, Henry Ford, and the Jim Crow laws; and the Nazi regime took inspiration from Harry Laughlin, the KKK, and American eugenics. (WWII might be a bigger contributor to eugenics going out of fashion in the US than its lack of scientific merit was.)

Yikes, that is a twist I was not aware of.

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