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I still struggle with the idea that the chinese olympics had both CGI fireworks and real firework footage mixed together.

I cant fathom how this was a "if they know it doesnt matter at all" situation.

A complete acceptance of real / fake, who cares its about stuff looking great.

I mean I can be told it but I cant understand why you would waste millions on real works just to have fake ones, why not just go all fake? If its a half way house then does no one care what is real?

IE on linkedin somany AI videos with thousands of comments and likes and I become lost on ... do most poeple just not care if its real or not? I dont think they do at all. Am I mad to care?

Its very easy to say well everyone uses filters and they are not real. And its true! But somewhere and I have no idea where, there seems tobe a line for me where I say no, thats not cricket, you cant just replace part of an image with a template of something else. I have no idea tho any thoughts appreciated.

> I mean I can be told it but I cant understand why you would waste millions on real works just to have fake ones, why not just go all fake? If its a half way house then does no one care what is real?

I work with VFX and try to always have something real in the shot. Explosions and the like are easier to expand but quite difficult to just add to empty shot. Fireworks are a bit easier but there is interplay with the environment which is hard to fake.

All these films where they announce ”we did it for real with practical effects” usually mean that it’s a mix and match between practical and computer generated effects. It can look better than either on their own.

Also I guess they had audience there so you need something for them as well.

> why not just go all fake?

Perhaps they needed some real fireworks for those there in person, and to be able to claim that there really was a fireworks show, but wanted to amp it up for those viewing the event virtually (most of the world).

Does it come from a cultural mindset, or are people from China just as confused?

From what I have seen, the attitude towards AI in China is entirely different. The population largely believes it's a positive technology that will help improve their lives. While in America there is a seething hatred towards AI where people believe the benefits will all go to the billionaires while they are put out of a job.

If you look at the way Chinese AI companies act compared to American ones, it's easy to see how people feel this way.

The crucial difference: in China, if a billionare might become more powerful than the government, they get disappeared and re-educated: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-56448688

Jack Ma is as scummy as the American tech elite, The whole 996 work schedule was from his companies. It's honestly good for society that people like him get reined in.

And it's not like they sent him to some north korean death camp. He's still one of the richest people in China, he just failed to deregulate the finance industry.

> Jack Ma is as scummy as the American tech elite, The whole 996 work schedule was from his companies.

doubt that, 996 has long tradition in China (even in Huawei, at least for young interns), heck even their schools were pretty much 996 up recently and most small businesses operate more like 997 closing only once a year for Chinese new year

not true

1. people losing income/jobs because of AI see it differently, you can even find videos of regular chinese talking about their daily life and how they see AI

programmer's view - has to make food delivery to make money https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJZFUEQebbI

this one is more about regular life than about AI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba_iwcFmxE8

2.it helps AI content in China needs to be marked, so pretty much every Chinese ad now contains AI mark, which become quite pointless since AI is used absolutely everywhere

3. but yeah, people can see it more positively since technology is more regulated and less used for milking customers

Usa World Cup half time show was also CGI

fascinating ill look it up thanks

real for onsite viewers

enhanced with fake for rest of the world

I don't like it either

IMO this is old man yelling at clouds mindset, which is fine, but losing battle. Asia went HAM on face filters day one and never turned it off, aesthetics > reality, and that mindet always existed in west but gaining mindshare in new gens. It's just produced art/content at the end of the day, I would say even before if you're not editing raw you're not trying, but now editing is included.

old man yelling at a society based on lies.

I guess all that remains are man made horrors beyond comprehension

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