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It’s worse than that, false positives are possible but someone generating text should be able to get ai to change some words and formatting to break the watermarking, then ai detectors can tell them how well they did.

I don’t know what the answer but I absolutely know it isn’t this.

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I think we need a chain of custody system for content, but that would require browsers, software, websites, operating systems, phones, camera manufacturers, etc to all get on board. But each intermediary or source (optionally) cryptographicaly signs a piece of content that it either generates, edits, or passes along, and the end result at a destination, is that content is either 'trusted' if its cryptographic chain is solid, or un-trusted otherwise.

> I think we need a chain of custody system for content, but that would require browsers, software, websites, operating systems, phones, camera manufacturers, etc to all get on board.

It would also require the individual humans you are trying to control to get on board otherwise the analog hole breaks the chain, absent mindboggling levels of physical surveillance on top of the the total monitoring of all electronic data flows that this idea requires.

I think that's the end goal.

If I'm like a high school/uni student, where this seems to really matter at the moment, you can still just have the LLM generate it and type it word for word in whatever text editor you're using, right? Less convenient but still probably easier than doing whatever work was necessary + still typing it all up. Chain of custody would show my keyboard really typed each stroke or w/e, but the underlying work is still generated

The words themselves are the symbols that are used to calculate signature, copying word for word will still reveal provence.

This is a meme video but I think it hits the nail on the head.

TLDR: AI will force global online digital ID for everyone that uses the internet for the exact reason you mentioned. And that would forever change free speech forever allowing the powers that be to put the genie "back in the bottle" so to speak.

link: Raiden Warned About AI Censorship - https://youtu.be/-gGLvg0n-uY

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