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You can advocate for changes to a system while living and existing within the system. In fact, that's probably required to actually make any changes. No one is going to listen to some crazy kook in a cabin in Montana

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You can't without making an effort to reduce your dependence on it. The most anti DC people I see are chronically online blasting their shit all over social media. Typically influencers, who make a living using said DCs, all day long. Social media directly supports what they are against. There are other ways to spread your message and when they choose the one method that directly goes against the message they are trying to put out, I'm not going to take them seriously, and will also assume they don't know what they're talking about.

The most anti DC people are not chronically online, if at all. Just because Youtube influencers exist doesn't mean they're anything close to the average concerned citizen.

See also, how many people here in France were jailed for sabotaging 5G antennas during their buildout.

Not using AI is already making you 0% dependent on these particular DCs that are shoddily built with no regard for the people around them.

These new datacenters aren’t for powering social media. All this extra capacity is for slop generators actively making the world worse.

> You can advocate for changes to a system while living and existing within the system.

I see very little advocating for change and a whole lot of knee-jerk reactions to shut it down.

The data center protests near me tried to complain about noise as one of their points, even though the DC was in the middle of nowhere

Other AI DCs can be heard from over a kilometer away.

This data center site was so far away they had to organize bus transport to the area.

Nobody was going to hear it unless they drove to it for the purposes of hearing it.

So what? It's good to have people question the status quo. Shut the stupid AI craze down before it finishes destroying whatever's left of our planet.

Or are you not concerned that AI companies are now the n°1 fossil fuel lobbyists in EU/USA? That they are consuming insane amounts of concrete and electricity for 0 gains for citizens (but enormous gains for the elites)?

> Shut the stupid AI craze down before it finishes destroying whatever's left of our planet.

I think a lot of the protestors are using data center protests as a proxy for some other belief like this. They think slowing down a data center is going to stop the future from occurring, which is an illogical fantasy on many different levels.

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