Your friend could start with telling the LLM that they are a non technical person who wants to make an app and it will explain all the successive steps.
Your friend could start with telling the LLM that they are a non technical person who wants to make an app and it will explain all the successive steps.
Have we? Or is this just something that people say now, without citation?
I personally know of two completely vibe-coded large apps in my professional environment. One by a non-technical manager, made to solve his needs, then sold to customers. Initial development went along great, but by now velocity has greatly slowed down. Also took a lot of engineering hours (of actual software developers) to get permission management from "chaotic and ineffective" to passable. It's still worse than what you would have gotten by just using a couple sentences of the right technical language at the start. Deployment is also a bit of a nightmare. All in all, anything beyond the first rollout phase was delayed by months. Honestly it should have stayed as a prototype that then gets rebuilt from the ground up. But still, it is a real app, making real revenue
The other example was vibe-coded by a software engineer in his free time. Works pretty well, doesn't have too many bugs. Makes some revenue, but a lot less. Solving manager problems just sells better.
But as another software engineer, I remove myself from that comparison, because the idea is to find out if a non technical person can do the same, that's the definition of vibe coding.
And that’s a natural process for many products. In the journey from discovery to prototype to MVP to product, it should be rebuilt multiple times.
Particularly with LLM’s to assist, the process of rebuilding from a new context and understanding of the desired goal requires even less effort.
The hardest part is managing any real users, their expectations, and any data / workflows they’ve come to require from what came before.
... or IDs apps as cr*p is still seen as negative.
So there's that.
He can't exactly release it because he uses a lot of copyrighted stuff. It's also meant only for himself. Though, I've been asking if I can play it, it looks fun.
We're in this spot where we don't know when to cut our losses on projects like this. (Is it even viable as production software? Does it currrently do what it's supposed to, or are they adding new features? Is there a return on continued development efforts?)
None of these apps they have built are seeing any major usage, and I don't think a single one is what I would call "done" (There was a gold rush stage at the beginning of 2026 where senior leadership wanted everyone to spend some time messing around with Claude). Unfortunately, they never told anyone when to stop messing around with Claude, so the ROI is ever diminishing.
Plinq was made on Lovable, https://www.aieatingtheworld.com/articles/non-technical-foun...
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