Why do we need to verify age?
You can't tell me that these social media companies don't already know exactly how old someone is just based on the enormous data that is collected.
You can't tell me that these social media companies don't already know exactly how old someone is just based on the enormous data that is collected.
Your solution here has the same flaw, I think. If the algorithm thinks I'm underage, I'm locked out.
it will solve by consumers, don't worry
Even literal regulated electricity utilities aren’t expected to provide service to every last marginal customer.
For example, a poor old grandma missing many electricity bill payments usually will see leniency if she is polite, the utility eventually won’t try to collect cash anymore and instead put a lien on the home while continuing to provide service.
But if the billing department receives multiple threats from her, then they may just cut the service.
How does “freedom” relate to an electrical utility deciding whether to cut service?
Even if we take marginalization out of it, this is the same kind of system that let's Healthcare recklessly utilize AI Systems to automatically reject patients' care, with a Herculean effort required to find a human to talk to. Its easy yo shrug until you are hallucinated into their crosshair.
But sure, that's "freedom".
By definition, a billing department of a utility has to be able to “marginalize”… in order to function.
There’s literally no other way I can see for it to work.
Anyway it's generally a tradeoff: is it worth doing it? By adding very strict age verification systems and marginalising people, do we make society globally better or not? Will those age verification systems work to prevent underage people from accessing the stuff we don't want them to access in the first place? Not clear. If they do, will it result in underage people being better? Not clear. And if it does, will it have been worth the damage on the people it marginalised? Not clear.
I really doubt you are genuinely incapable of understanding what “regulated electricity utilities” or “expected to provide service” means.
I can't write more than 5 posts per day and I can have negative karma because people doing more downvoting than upvoting.
So there is no point to wonder, if it's coordinated trolling or not.
I didn’t accuse you of downvoting. It’s literally not possible for HN users to downvote the comment they reply to.
Anyone with seemingly over 10k karma would know that.
Do you aware how many people are locked out from access of the bank because the bank think they are too risky by some algorithm and no human review?
And people got rejected for flying because they have same name as somebody on no fly list?
Also, if you've ever played with this kind of data, there is immense overlap between how some adults and some kids use the internet. Is this user legally a child, or just emotionally a child? Similar to the problem of "There is overlap between the smartest bears and dumbest tourists" in designing bear proof garbage cans.
chatgpt basically never sent email and it's regular now - like 2 4 emails per month
so, it doesn't look great for chatgpt
If that’s the nearly infinite wiggle room we’re playing with then I’d say what about Adult and Child versions of phones? You have to flash your ID to the clerk to buy an adult one, like buying cigarettes at a gas station, and then you get to do what the internet offers. Child phones - let parents and governments come up with whatever they want to block. The phone autoupdates in the background with the blocklist, the device can’t do those things. There ya go. Each person and family gets to make their own choices and nobody has to give an ID card to PornHub or a company that literally exists to harvest your information. Win-win?
When I was a kid there was no TV in my bedroom nor a computer. Everything I watched or did online was on full display in the family room. What changed in the modern home where that's not the case? Are kids glued to their phones because their parents are too?