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> As another Redditor put it, the first time Canadians would notice a difference in their lives is when they vote for said representatives.

A country doesn't get attacked and invaded to change basically nothing or increase the life of the foreign population. It's done to exercise sustained power.

Who do you think would Canadians vote for after Trump starts a war, kills hundreds or more Canadians, etc.? So, for sure they wouldn't get voting rights, for example.

You have a way too romantic idea in your head. "We attack and kill our friends to become better friends" isn't a real thing.

> Or when they get access to Hulu and to the US Netflix catalog. Etc., etc.

Or when they can't afford health care anymore. Or when employees lose rights. Or when the country gets flooded with fire arms. You might think becoming part of the US is the totally best that could happen to anybody and that's okay. But most people outside the US don't agree.

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>Or when they can't afford health care anymore

Ah yes, the so-effective Canadian system.

Context for others: An amazingly high portion of Canadians don't have a family doctor <https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/article/health-care-on-the-bri...>. In Atlantic Canada (the four easternmost provinces) it is impossible, repeat impossible, to get a family doctor if you don't have one <https://web.archive.org/web/20190226051406/https://www.thete...>. It's one thing to have shortages in rural areas—that happens in the US too—but Halifax?!? I've heard the same occurs in Vancouver too, and am hearing more reports of the same in Ontario.

Meanwhile, in the US people can't afford to become sick or just go bankrupt over it.

Do you want to argue that both systems suck? I don't know enough about the Canadian system to judge on that, as long as we can agree that the US system is completely broken we agree.

At least two hospitals in the Greater Vancouver area have had weekend ER closures this year. Kelowna is having their own issues, mostly maternity.

>A country doesn't get attacked and invaded

It's as if you blithely ignored my

>Even (again) setting aside Trump explicitly ruling out invasion

in the sentence before the one you quoted.

As for

>Who do you think would Canadians vote for after Trump starts a war, kills hundreds or more Canadians, etc.? So, for sure they wouldn't get voting rights, for example.

First, let me (again) point you to what I wrote above.

Second, let's address the question of Canadians voting after annexation in general. Americans on either side of politics think that Canada is full of super-leftists (and there is no shortage), and Canadians love repeating the "Canadian Conservatives are more leftist than American Democrats" nonsense. But were Canada a part of the US in 2016, Trump would have won AB, SK, and quite possibly enough of the GTA (the parts that loved Rob Ford, and as "Ford Country" has repeatedly won the province for Doug Ford) to win ON, the province most resembling MI/WI/PA, the three states that Trump unexpectedly won the election with. 2024? Very good chance he also takes some/all of BC, MB, NS, and NL.

Not sure what you are arguing about then. That generally Canada works be better off of they joined the US? As already stated, I don't think Canadian population agrees on that.

I'm addition, most of what you mentioned can be achieved without merging two countries, just by trade agreements.

Congrats, dumbest thing I've read on the Internet today.

Have you ever actually looked at the 2015 Federal Election results. SMH.

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