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I am not saying it is marketing but typically when there is a data breach you may hear from the CISO but most of the time is is vague PR response. In this case I get loud signals from both HG and OpenAI leadership without much information exactly what the attack was about just that GPT x.x was involved. It is unusual all I am trying to say.

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It's incredible how people miss the forest for the trees thinking constantly that Sam and Dario are marketing gurus when they are literally trying to contain nuclear material. Not sure what has to happen for this thinking to stop maybe a huge accident and the. Aha maybe they had a point

I don't think there is any dispute there is a real risk. But hype does not really help shape the conversation and this is the problem. I am sure both companies know more than they can disclose and that gives them unique perspective outsider don't have but let's face it, both are also financially incentive to act as they do. I am not going to get into the conspiracy theories but one does not need a lot of imagination to figure out how this could pan out. Either way, it does not help the conversation that needs to be had and it is urgent. It is certainly not helping at all given that same capabilities exist in open-weight models.

They've been doing blatant, tech, scifi marketing for two years at least. If anything, this is just more sophisticated marketing.

More sophisticated as in paying HF to get involved, and hyping up GLM for something that it may not actually detect?

Wish people crying “marketing” would think about what it is they’re claiming.

Use your brain. They have an IPO coming. They were recently in the news because they were bleeding billions and their CAPEX was high. It's marketing.

This is exactly what I mean. You’re thinking about the abstract conditions and not what it would take to secretly stage something like this.

Yes. Is that sophisticated to you?

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