There's a strange belief, I believe most born out of morality, that medicine undermines discipline or healthy lifestyle. But it does not, they work in tandem, each making the other stronger.
It is true that taking medication is "easy" - not that easy, though. But easy != evil or immortal. If it's so easy, that's a good thing. It means we can stack it on top of lifestyle changes for very little marginal cost. If you're already working out and eating good, that's great. Go to your cardiologist and see if you're a candidate for statins or hypertension medication.
Advise not callously generalizing your opinion on things like this. It's clear that you either spoke without knowing more, which happens, or you really don't seem to care to know more. I hope you're not in the latter.
Do you have the same simplistic ideas about GLP-1's?
[1] https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/16867-cholest...
> Go from obese to not obese and the median person's cholesterol will drop quite a bit.
This is really interesting, I don’t think I’ve heard that before. Do you have a source you could share?
Edit: this doesn’t necessarily prove you wrong, but this paper argues there’s little correlation between bmi and cholesterol [1]
[1] https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11695-010-0170-7
I'm also not uncommon. They suspect as much of 30% of the population could be like this. There's a lot of ignorance in this thread.
It's one f those things where some people's "I can't help it!" claims are true, but many are not. That doesn't invalidate the first category even though most people in the category are in the latter.
so you solved obesity then! people just need to make better choices! Glad we have you here solving the worlds greatest mysteries
Triglycerides & HDL are affected by weight (tho more triglycerides than anything else), e.g. Wing 2011.
The thread above us discusses neither mass nor weight. Here it is copied in full -- I encourage you to use ctrl-f
> mediumsmart 1 hour ago
> One could eat healthy instead of course but hey, the good life.
> shlant 1 hour ago
> you didn't read the article did you? Or are you actually here to claim that people with hypercholesterolemia just need to eat better?
> Do you have the same simplistic ideas about GLP-1's?
> moi2388 1 hour ago
> For all people? No. For the vast majority of people? Yes. Eat healthy and exercise more
I'm a bit upset that I put in effort to genuinely engage in your claims, and you're not willing to go back and read the thread to confirm claims that _you made_. In fact, you suckered me into re-reading the same thread _for the third time_ looking for some throwaway line I missed about mass or weight. I could just decide that internet discussion doesn't matter, and stop engaging on HN, but I'd rather not do that. Can you please try a bit more?
I'm not going to reply to the Triglycerides & HDL comment without a link. It was your claim initially, and I was nice enough to provide a link with evidence against it, so surely you can do the same in support.
And yes, exercising and dieting absolutely reduces the need for these medications.
It also reduces the amount of people who have high cholesterol, although again, in both cases not all
Obviously some people still need medication if they have particularly unfortunate genetics.
Being a major shift from the good life one should start it with a 7 day water fast. (do I have to say "ask your doctor before embarking"? done)