Cool people use ActivityPub.
Single vendor owned & controlled standards always turn out badly, just a question when.
Single vendor owned & controlled standards always turn out badly, just a question when.
ActivityPub solves a completely different (arguably, smaller) set of problems. This is like saying "Cool people use email instead of web".
I have a few diagrams here that may help see just how different they are: https://overreacted.io/there-are-no-instances-in-atproto/#so...
>Single vendor owned & controlled standards always turn out badly, just a question when.
Yeah, which is why atproto is going to IETF: https://atproto.com/blog/kicking-off-the-atp-working-group. You can join the mailing list to participate in the discussions: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/atp/?gbt=1&index=.
No, the million of users sharing porn on entirely isolated mastodon instances that absolutely nobody wants to federate with because you'd be exposed to pictures of minors within 5 minutes do not count.
(Though I do agree it's partially irrelevant, depending on what problem you're trying to solve.)
yes, mastodon.social is big but there is more plurality. There is about 250k users on mastodon.social while whole fediverse is about 10 milion
On the other hand while tere is roughly 35 milion bluesky users there is only ~50k on non-blusky PDSes (https://blue.mackuba.eu/directory/pdses) so there's that…
And you can’t tone police a standard. That’s very weird.
This has happened with every single federated platform, and it can’t be solved with technology because it’s fundamentally not a technology problem. People want to be where other people are, so once the community reaches a critical mass it inevitably degrades into the same sump of mediocrities and their rules as everything else.
If you find yourself on the outside, it might just be that you're the village idiot. Before SoMe platforms like twitter, facebook and other places without local moderation the village idiot didn't have much of a voice either.
But the fediverse? Can't count how many times I've seen instance admins hold their users hostage in bitchfights over the Israel/Palestine stance of other instance admins.
Email is probably the closest to anarchy. If you could get people to use it for group communications, every user could decide who they include in their "reply all", which would probably lead to absolute chaos.
However, I do feel internet communities were better when they were smaller due to being special interest driven and self-policing. People wore different hats according to the community they were engaging with.
not neceessarily true, see Matrix where it pretty much doesn't matter where you are
It didn't happen with the internet itself. You still can avoid Facebook and co. and happily discuss things on HN.
And with the email, it is much less serious than people assume. I do not use gmail or MS and practically nobody I talk to does.
Really basically: Everyone can have their data (posts, media attachments) on whatever server they want or control, easily self hosted.
And at the same time, people can also host "apps" like Bluesky that read said data and interpret conventions in naming to show it in a meaningfull way like as posts.
you can self host your data.
you can self host a bluesky view.
It actually kind of reminds me of openstreetmap, where it's actually only a database of keys and values, but apps interpret their meanings based on conventions