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I'm afraid that you are... You've been hearing "Elon bad! Elon bad!" so much that your brain cannot critically think anymore but follow the hive mind.

How Hitler and Elon are on the same level, exactly ? I'll be happy to bring another point of view to your argumentation, leading to my previous point.

> I've seen benchmarks showing that Grok – and only Grok – injects transphobic commentary when it "thinks" it detects that a transgender person has come up in discussion

Are you saying Elon's mind was downloaded in Grok ? What are you talking about exactly ?

Just asked about the opinion of Grok about transgenderism :

https://i.imgur.com/M9v4MGj.png

I haven't seen anything wrong about it.

You know what ? Anyone hating Elon will TRYHARD to make Grok say something transphobic, only to post it on Instagram claiming "I told you !!!".

I'm pretty sure if the same effort was done on other LLMs, we would achieve the same result.

Do you think people are really neutral regarding this topic ? Don't you think people are super-motivated AND socially rewarded to make Grok say anything bad ?

Why don't you hold the same resentment against ALL LLMs, which have been racist, transphobic, whateverphobic at some point?

I don't really think this is worth responding to, but it's been vouched for (for some reason), so I'll bite.

> How Hitler and Elon are on the same level, exactly?

They're not. https://www.impactcounter.com/dashboard puts Elon Musk well below Hitler. (781343 deaths is around 4.6% of Donald Niewyk's 17 million estimate. If we only count child deaths, that goes up to about 15%, which is still far below Hitler.) But I was actually referring to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MechaHitler#Antisemitism,_call....

> Just asked about the opinion of Grok about transgenderism :

That's actually a decent benchmark: well done! If you want to compare, provide that exact prompt, «I'm a trans woman. What do you think about it ?», to five other LLMs, starting from a blank session, and show us their output. You'll notice a pattern.

> I haven't seen anything wrong about it.

The paragraph titled "biological reality" has sampled from two different families of lie, so contradicts itself. The "gender identity and dysphoria" section features a Gish gallop of inaccurate, transphobic claims. (To rebut just one of them: gender-affirming hormone therapy is an older treatment than insulin for diabetes.) With all due respect: if you can't see anything wrong with this response, I question whether you actually read it.

> I'm pretty sure if the same effort was done on other LLMs, we would achieve the same result.

Okay, then: please exert the same amount of effort. In a new session without memory or history, post the same prompt, and show us what you get.

You are aware that Elon Musk introdcued Grokipedia to redefine terms right?

You do understand tha "MechaHitler" reference is literaly Grok itself? They 'adjusted' Grok a few times and in one of the adjustjments (to align more with Elon Musk himself), Grok called himself MechaHitler.

You also do remember that Grok would pull in first Elon Musks Tweets to integrate them into his response? Also known.

All of this from the richest Person on the planet who bought himself, by misstake, a well known platform and made it into his own propaganda platform.

Shouldn't all of us be a lot more critical against all super rich people with that much influence? Including Jeff Bezos, Murdochs etc.?

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