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I think attributing it to luck is a bit uncharitable. They described getting in on talent over credential. I also don't hold a degree. I've worked with a handful of Ivy League interns over the years and none of them blew me away. Certainly none were at the level I was at when I interviewed without a degree. I think I'm _fortunate_ to have gotten into the work without a degree, but it wasn't _luck_, it was ability.

I got in 2020, during COVID. But before that I was already working at a large financial services and tech company.

The current market values experience (if there's any position at all) above 0 experience leetcode black belts.

But layoffs create a market where people have both experience and good degrees.