Comment by tsoukase | Hacker News Reader

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I don't distinguish a phone from other electronic home devices I also happen to buy. I don't change their firmware for various reasons, like not worth it (eg fridge, washing machine), illegal (eg set top box or car) or impossible. Being able to even enable developer mode in Android and do anything more than designed for a regular user goes already too far in relation to the other devices. Is there any car that you can boost with tapping seven times its gas tank cap? And I am afraid it will be removed someday in the future like the bootloaders became locked one after another. PCs are another story, an open remnant from the past, that the hard and soft tech companies sweared not to leave happen the same mistake again with phones. The term "buy" and it's rights are not inherited from a PC to a phone.

I am not an advocate for the greedy tech companies but I am trying to give some rational perspective of the balance of power between them and us. If we want openness we cannot reach it with wishful saying.

From day one, Google sought to attract customers to Android by marketing it as an "open" alternative to Apple's locked-down appliance model. Android couldn't quite compete with Apple's UI polish or battery life, but that was okay because Android sought to be a hand-held personal computer that could also make phone calls. The most important quality of personal computers, of course, is that they can run whatever software their users desire, including the users' own code.

Having gained their market share, Google now pulls a bait-and-switch by quietly retreating from Android's "open" messaging and philosophy. That's too bad for Google, because a mere appliance, it's worse than iPhone in every dimension.

> I am trying to give some rational perspective of the balance of power between them and us

That should *not be a thing*.

You bought the device.

You own it.

It should be yours to do with as you see fit.

That applies to phones or appliances or cars unless your individual right to modify your devices begins to interfere with the rights of others (think: safety, tragedy of the commons scenarios, etc).

This is how we end up with cars we can't repair, phones we can't upcycle, TVs that advertise to us without our consent.

Its insanity.

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