Comment by roysting | Hacker News Reader

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The fact that you ignore the core of what I said and deflected with distraction is quite telling.

I agree with you, but the point was not anything about work life balance; it was about not being selfish, self centered, narcissistic; realizing that others may not have the ability or are not going on vacation at that given time and there should always be someone, especially in a kafkaesque type bureaucracy as Germany, who can assist in accomplishing whatever horrific bureaucratic control mechanism must be suffered to accomplish basic things.

My point was about continuity, not you talking about your vacation to rationalize the abuse of others who are not going on vacation but whose life you impact by your absence and lack of continuity, someone else not being able to competently perform your role in your absence, making them have to wait for your return from your work life balance vacation. It’s just narcissism, the disgusting mentality I called out and you reacted to.

> the abuse of others who are not going on vacation but whose life you impact by your absence and lack of continuity

That’s the point - this doesn’t matter and work is organized so that people can go home guilt free.

Coworkers should be able to take over; managers are responsible for coordinating vacation time, training and handovers. The customers are free to switch companies.

Talk about narcissism. You don't want anyone to have any guilt even when they adversely and negatively affect others.

How about this, you don't put others in a bind or adversely affect them if you don't want actual guilt, regardless of whether you want to feel it or not. This is the kind of messed up mentality that I was saying is so prevalent across Europe, if not narcissism, very much narcissistic in nature... I don't care about anything or anyone else but me and my vacation/time off.

And no, please don't try to distract with the red herrings. I am not advocating for employees to be abused; there is in fact a middle ground which I am advocating for, where if you want "guilt free feelings" ... DON'T BE GUILTY of abusing others by not caring about your responsibilities towards them.

It does still apply to companies, which, if you have some standing, let alone paid relationship with; have a duty to engage in that relationship. But I am also mostly talking about the bureaucracy, since that is in fact the OP topic, bureaucratic entitled narcissists simply just leaving others in a lurch because they go on a month long vacation, literally causing and costing damages and financial loss to someone.

> I am not advocating for employees to be abused; there is in fact a middle ground (…) DON'T BE GUILTY of abusing others by not caring about your responsibilities towards them.

My point is that the responsibility of the employer towards the employee (to allow time for vacation) has priority over the responsibilities of the employee towards the customer. It’s not the employee that failed you, it’s the employer. The employee cannot stay at work and the employer is responsible for providing replacement.

Still, why not switch companies to non eu ones?

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