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It is a sensible combination to me. If you first believe that the government should provide a bunch of free stuff, but it doesn't at the moment because it's too expensive, it kind of makes sense that you would then think there need to be fewer people getting the free stuff so it remains affordable. The first people on the exclusion list would naturally be noncitizens.

You can exclude people you don't like from free healthcare without physically removing them from the country.

You could, but in practice illegals get/use a lot of public goods that cannot be reasonably gated. The "means testing costs more than just giving welfare" argument is cited. Plus things like public schools, parks, transportation don't require ID to use. Having an ID is not guaranteed, as voting advocates often point out.

You can't, else it would mean if someone smash you in the street with a car and you don't carry an ID on you, they wouldn't treat you.

As it turns out you can't have strong socialist policies and also open borders.

Also they are anti EU and NATO. Lot of astroturfing here.

Those are left wing positions. Until 2023 the UK's Green Party's policy was to leave NATO, and there is still a lot of support in the part for that. When the UK's Labour party was socialist they were anti-EU. If you look at campaigned for what in the 1975 referendum on EEC membership its pretty clear: for example, Thatcher campaigned to remain, Tony Benn campaigned to leave. The remnants of the old left remain anti-EU even now.

They're neither wing. A foo-wing person could want to leave the EU because it's too bar-wing for any values of foo and bar.

> Lot of astroturfing here.

The guidelines say "assume good faith"

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> Also they are anti EU and NATO. Lot of astroturfing here.

At the same time, that big advertising and crony politicians are fighting to impose digital ID for all internet communications... one of the strongest privacy advocates is being attacked with non-sense.

Expect EFF to be bought or attacked.

Two things can be true.

its not uncommon. The overtly racist parties in the UK (e.g. the BNP has quite a lot of left wing policies (e.g. nationalisation of utilities), ending NHS outsourcing to the private sector, and free healthcare.

Its a combination that appeals to the worst off who compete with unskilled immigrants for jobs and rely on free healthcare etc.

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