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I'll keep on asking exact things you've done as long as you keep claiming something doesn't work, when I know it does and have worked for many.

About advise part, I am not looking to offer him any advise I am simply defending the method and ideas, so that other people can find success with it similar to what I've done for me and for many others.

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Your advice is exactly the same advice that people have been giving for decades. Look around. Giving that advice doesn't work for most people.

How much weight did you lose, and how long have you kept it off?

the discussion in this thread is about the long-term effects of using drugs to fix conditions that were fixed by lifestyle changes before the drugs.

Giving up the very difficult route of changing lifestyle for the easier alternative of taking drugs for weight loss comes with both biological and social consequences.

The people talking about that shouldn't be bullied to feel ashamed of not taking or recommending taking drugs.

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