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Let me guess, because you, yourself, are not an employee so you don't mind because it does not apply to you ?

It's been a fact of life for as long as I can remember. If you using the companies resources, they are well within their rights to monitor what you are doing.

Just don't use the company stuff and you are fine.

I agree with you. But do you remember when we could chat with a colleague about how much of a doofus our boss was without worrying that some automated system would possibly notify the boss about it? Nowadays big brother is always watching.

I am an employee. I'm also an employee who wouldn't mind if all my key strokes were logged, my movements around the building tracked, and any work calls taken recorded.

When I'm at work, I'm working.

The above type of monitoring would really highlight those of you conducting "wage theft". And you're all getting angry at it. I don't understand. If you focus on work during your work hours, you have nothing to hide.

You don’t know what wage theft is. It’s not something an employee does.

because he is smart.

he uses personal cellphone to browse reddit and hacker news

be smart like the top poster

You think Meta employees are only expected to work 8 hours a day?

Also, this isn't about tracking social media usage, it's about collecting employee keys/actions.

There was a time when if your "boss" tells you to install a keylogger on your work machine, it's a black-teaming exercise. How the times have changed...

"Work" is subjective. That idea only works if everyone's boss was as loving and forgiving as Jesus Christ (philosophically speaking).

Some time I spend the whole day sitting at my computer and can't think of a solution to a problem. And some time, I'm readying myself to bed and have to note down the solution that just appear in my mind. How do you even track that? I did a time with time tracking software as a freelancer and that has been the most miserable part of my working life (and I did data entry for survey).

I'm a developer and I mostly do my thinking offline. What I do on my computer is mostly translating my idea to code and consulting docs. Also testing and communication with the team. And all of this is already fairly visible without tracking.

I get paid for my work, not 8 hours a day. I’m a salaried employee. I sometimes have to work more than 8 to deliver things, I sometimes work less than 8. The fact that someone needs to monitor me all day long and potentially could use the information to treat me unfairly is disgusting. I’m not the first in line to defend meta employees, but this is just unacceptable.

Ok but that doesn't change what I said. Whether you work 1 hour that day, or 10, the hours you are giving to the business i.e what they are paying for - You need to be working.

If you're concerned about monitoring during your paid hours perhaps you should focus on being more productive during this time?

I don't think what I am saying is controversial but a lot of people seem to disagree with this

What you’re saying is controversial because you have no concept of what “productivity” is but are asking people to be more productive.

I actually get paid by the hour but I think exactly like you do. Often work more than what I bill for. I'm delivering so much now with swarms of agents it really doesn't even make sense to pay me by the hour. I really think my next job will be a one person company run by moi.

I like to use swarms of swarms of agents, but I think my competitor is using swarms of swarms of swarms of agents :(

The first firm to successfully nest it 40 levels will achieve the singularity.

Replying to myself after re reading it. Yeah I sounded like an full Kool aid drinker I guess. But there really is something to this idea that getting paid by the hour is so out of touch with the way 'work' now gets done.

Given the work that Meta does and the scale that they operate at, there are absolutely real concerns about providing internal access to the activity on someone's work computer. To take an extreme example, Meta has employees who investigate reports of CSAM or other criminal activity on their platform. There have to be very strict controls over who has access to that information.

Wow. What a narrow, naive view.

How?

If you're seriously concerned about the monitoring, what are you doing the company wouldn't approve of?

I guess you don’t mind a camera in the company bathroom watching you take a shit either?

Look, you ate the lunch. The company has to track those resources.

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