Hacker News Reader

Comment by Protostome | Hacker News Reader

[flagged]

> Firing from schools, hospitals and resendential buildings.

I really don't want to descend into countless counterexamples, but that's how virtually every military or militia wages war, including the IDF. I assume your confusion on this issue may be due to a lack of familiarity with the subject.

Usually never ever has anything to do with malevolence (eg. in an attempt to use the counter strike as a propaganda story). More often, it's just a matter of convenience, logistics, and the realities of operating in populated areas.

If there's one thing that CIA manuals on training militias stressed on, or any military history book in that regard, it's that soldiers need to be fed and supported. Or they'll find ways to meet those needs without you.

Are you saying that every militia and army use hospitals as a base from which to wage war? (e.g. firing rockets, artillery shells, etc)

Units will use any reinforced or cover position to carry their objective.

Even roofs of civilians apartments, let alone reinforced structures such as hospitals, town halls, schools, etc if they can't use alternatives.

Even antique frontal wars used terrain to their advantage. That's why we wrote rules of engagement, but if the bigger powers themselves abuse them, how can you expect militias that have to carry guerrilla or urban tactics to stand by them?

Well, every choice has a consequence. For Israel the choice was accept rockets fired on Israeli towns on a regular basis(not settlements, btw, just towns within the 1948 UN recognized borders of Israel) or respond.

BTW, The response came after texting the residents, distributing leaflets and annoncening in every way possible that the place is going to be bombed.

BTW (2), For years Israel avoided bombing dense residential areas, despite knowing the origin of those rockets.

The whole world saw US soldiers in the Gulf states hiding in hotels when US bases were struck.

That's why I mentioned that it was very shallowly understandable at the beginning. Not after few years of massacre.

Interesting part about your commentary is, that you completely ignored the West bank I mentioned. Place when Israel forces killed hundreds of children with sole reason or colonisation of land belonging to someone else. Or at least I never found any other explanation for behavior at the West Bank.

There is a severe lack of construction materials in Gaza. My guess is that Hamas has a choice between using what's left for tunnels, or losing the war.

That's a slight mix of cause and effect. There is a shortage of construction material because Hamas uses it not for the wellbeing of the citizens of Gaza, but for the construction of border crossing tunnels into Israel.

Sure, that's Israel's purported reason for all of its blockades. The result, as in most cases in history, is that civilians bear the overwhelming brunt of the impact while the military resistance digs further in, switches to guerilla tactics, and becomes increasingly popular amongst civilians.

Regardless, my original point stands that Hamas do not have the means and resources both to build public shelters for everyone and to continue its military efforts.

They are deliberately targeting tent encampments. Given the IDF mil tech I guess they can deliberately target and destroy any kind of shelter.

May, 2024: At least 21 killed in Israeli attacks on tent camp near Gaza’s Rafah [4]

September, 2024: An Israeli strike on humanitarian tent camp for displaced Gazans killed at least 19 people [5]

December 2024: Seven attacks on tent encampments in the past two weeks kill 34 Palestinians including 10 children [2]

April 2025, Israeli strikes kill Palestinians in tented area for displaced in Gaza [3]

January, 2026: Israeli airstrikes targeted tents belonging to displaced people [1]

[1] https://www.reutersconnect.com/item/israeli-airstrikes-targe...

[2] https://www.un.org/unispal/document/ohchr-opt-press-release-...

[3] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yrl891j23o

[4] https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/5/28/at-least-21-kil...

[5] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/an-israeli-strike-on-huma...

How do you place millions of people in bomb shelters when your neighbour of a few kms away bombs you any time it wants from fighter jets? Have you not seen the footage of bombs dropped with no warnings in the middle of the streets, on residential buildings, on schools, on hospitals?

Israelis have bomb shelters because have ample warning and an enemy that is barely able to hit anything.

This blaming the victims of your own bombings for not taking shelter- actually accusing them to be responsible for their own deaths and those of their relatives, parents, wives, children, is some of the most revolting and shameless Israeli propaganda.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com