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2. There's nothing whatsoever wrong about asking questions. It becomes wrong when refusing to listen to the answers and dismissing all the ones you don't like because you don't like the person saying them. Ironically, that's ad hominem.
Scepticism is healthy, and I don't begrudge you your scepticism. The scientific consensus can be wrong, especially for issues like this where debates get heated.
But I think that's an argument for 'let people do what they want' rather than 'prevent them from doing what mainstream science seems to think is the best action'.
Look at these stats: https://boxed.github.io/micromort/?q=vaccine&scale=log&sel=v...
Note the LOG scale! You can switch to a linear scale, but then you can't even see there are multiple vaccine adverse risk data points, as they all collapse to one dot compared the the huge risks of the diseases they prevent.
Their bio: "Christian // Father // Husband // Veteran"
I think like with that person that found their cancer to have some dna from an mrna vaccine in it the issue is when the prominent messaging is that there is no 0.1 micromort risk. There is no risk whatsoever and everyone who says so is a looney. Immediately you'll have thousands who say i told you so and harden their conviction.
There was also bad communication on the topic, often when politicians got involved or due to outdated information continued to be repeated. But there certainly was a lot of public discussion about the risks of the vaccines, they were simply vastly outnumbered by the benefits of the vaccines.
That 20 is in large part the kid that was brought into the hospital too late if at all. The kid that might have had astma or what have you.
The 3 is potentially yours or one in your family or friend group or community. It is a government mandated death and you might already distrust the gov.
A tragic event vs an authoritarian death inflicted upon you from that perspective.
My grandma is a scientist presumably very familiar with all this stuff but when her partner (not my grandpa) died from a bloodcloth shortly after getting an vaccine she also veered into that territory.
Well.. no. It was a government RECOMMENDED death at the most.
In fact, it's even more stupid. Sweden for example were so deadly afraid of anti-vaxxers that they threw away tens of thousands of doses of AstraZenecas vaccine. The one with 2 deaths per million. At the time it was estimated at 5 per million. Sweden has a population of 10 million. So if we instantly vaccinated the entire population we would see 2 deaths. While this decision to throw away doses was done we lost tens per day. And the government didn't allow those who understood math to take this if they wanted. No. They mandated the deaths. THOSE deaths WERE mandated. For real.
No. Lying about the risks is what got us in this mess. There IS a risk. It's just crazy low. https://boxed.github.io/micromort/?q=vaccine&scale=log These are the real risks. Yellow Fever vaccine is the worst with ~7 micromort risk. That's roughly your baseline risk just by living for 7 hours. It's not a lot, but saying it's zero is false, and lying about shit is how you radicalize people.