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>ask a random stranger on the street if he's racist, and he will honestly say no, even if he actually simply does not realize it

My lord you people are beyond patronizing.

When people refer to "the Chinese" or "the Russians", we are taking about the nation state, not the people. And there are legitimate security concerns. Whether we should be adversial is another question. But we are.

I am wary of any supply chain attack and more so if the project is maintained by people with relationships in adversarial countries. The risk of exploitation outweighs the convenience.

I agree about the legitimate security concerns, but not with "we're talking about the nation state, not the people". If life has taught me anything in the last few years, it's that normies are incapable of making this distinction, at least in the Old World.

I liked how you othered people as you lamented the human habit of othering people.

My country literally has sanctions on your country. If I do any projects with you, I’ll pay a fine of $200K and go to jail for up to 10 years.

It’s not racism, it’s just caution.

That’s sad because I’ve always wanted to visit Russia and from the outside it looks like a really interesting place.

Now, if you could change your government to one that listens to the European Court of Human Rights (namely: don’t start random wars, respect freedom of religion and respect people’s right not to participate in useless wars they don’t believe in) then we’d be best friends.

Does your country sanction all other countries that start "random wars", or just Russia?

Well, we also have sanctions on the Middle East, and we’ve warned China that they will get sanctions if they invade Taiwan.

Maybe we should have sanctions on America, but our politicians are not exactly brave.

There is an awesome amount of software written by Russians - nginx, clickhouse, 7zip, Far Manager, WinRAR, even Kotlin (his creator) - I grew up, as bulgarian, with Russian books (especially math) that were indispensible.

Do I like the Russian goverment, or any of their goverments (current, soviet or royal ones) - Hell no! We were liberated "two" or was it "three" times by then only to screw things for us badly (Bulgaria).

The people, the culture, the language, the music, art, science are great...

I still don't understand why so many bulgarians still like Putin... but hey!

All the Jetbrains tooling as well.

Given that american ignorance is a cultural thing (with many people deliberately electing the way grandpa did it) is it not kind of racist to generalize americans as unknowingly racist?

You said, "ask a random stranger...and he will honestly say no" not "ask a random stanger...and he will probably honestly say no".

Most of most people are racist, it's just different groups. Americans obviously have less distrust of americans, but then I am just as certain that there are many many humans who would proudly share their "dumb american" stories as if that is not every bit as prejudicial to those of us who do not fit the description as any other "weak french" or "commie russian" or "sister fucking indian" or whatever else.

> but then I am just as certain that there are many many humans who would proudly share their "dumb american" stories as if that is not every bit as prejudicial to those of us who do not fit the description as any other "weak french" or "commie russian" or "sister fucking indian" or whatever else.

Racism is about race (i.e. phenotypical or genotypical properties), while being US-American/French/Russian/Indian/... is about nationality. So, these stories are not about racism (since they are not about race), but about prejudices against other nations/nationalities.

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