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Comment by mark_l_watson | Hacker News Reader

Why would my country blacklist DeepSeek? Perhaps crazy lunacy like: "Your product is too good and too inexpensive: consumers like US companies and individuals need to pay more for services."

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Isn't that effectively what they've done in regards to chinese cars?

I'm interested if this is a tactic from Chinese side to undermine competition by subsidizing this price dumping.

How it’s price dumping if they give you the model to run free on your own hardware? Follow this logic, are not all OSS price dumping and should be blocked as well? I remember Steve Ballmer once called for that!

I’m pretty sure the digital lords like that proposal a lot. Not so much about the serfs themselves, though.

First of all you are assuming I'm saying they should block it. I'm not.

Seconddly, releasing the model weights for free and selling hosted inference are completely different markets. Open source itself is not price dumping obviously. But a hosted API can still be dumped if it is sold below cost to buy market share or squeeze competitors. Which it is.

Yes, but they won't say that. Instead they will say _too Chinese, too communist, too national security-y_

They usually say it has "ties" to the Chinese military. Meanwhile, every big tech from Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Anthropic, and a ton of smaller corporations directly supply the US military.

I mean, usually people saying this are politician's so you must at least assume they are hypocritical or lying in some way.

Needless to say, I'm not surprised that they are trying to block them.

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