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Someone told me it was impossible to become an avogadrillionaire (to have a net worth of one mole, or approximately 6.02 x 10^23 dollars.) Now there's this founder I know whose startup grew 93% last month. Let's be conservative and say she has 2 million dollars. Let's calculate how many months of 93% growth it takes for something to grow 301,100,000,000,000,000x.

The log base 1.93 of 301,100,000,000,000,000 is 61.2091. That's about 5 years and 35 days. Is it really impossible to grow 93% month over month for 5 consecutive years? I can imagine some startups that can.

There are two numbers that determine whether you can make one avogadrillion dollars. One is your growth rate, which doesn't matter at all. The other is the size of the available market. Simply identify a market that has on the order of 10^20 times the demand that is currently being met. Understand what your users want. Ask ChatGPT for advice.

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It’s actually easy and straight forward to become an avogadrillionaire, on paper that is, but still an avogadrillionaire: issue a token with a supply of 6.02*10^23, sell one token for $1, bam, avogadrillionaire

Crazy that you're giving that advice away for free. You should be selling a course instead.

PG acknowledged that growth is limited by market size. Markets to support "avogadrillionaire" level wealth may not current exist.

However, there obviously exist markets to support billionaire level wealth, as evidenced by the at least 30 billionaires produced by YC, and the many others.

Markets have growth rates the same way that products do.

No, because they are ultimately constrained by outputs that can be delivered or (assuming claims on future economic output into the market) the money supply that can be assigned to the future output. Even with leverage I couldn't ask my bank to loan me 6e23 USD without a lot more stuff having to happen first.

There are markets that can grow fast of course, but once that exceeds the overall economy it can only come from forcing other markets to shrink, and that limits the growth rate to which the fast-growing market can ultimately attain.

I think that avocado farms in Earth orbit have the avogadrillionare potential. Musk is on it. :P

> Is it really impossible to grow 93% month over month for 5 consecutive years? I can imagine some startups that can.

Sure, if they have a monopoly. Any market seeing that kind of growth will instantly have competitors and eventually the TAM runs out.

This is a joke, right?

If you start with $7.35464e-6 you’ll get to a trillion by the time you’re done!

Yes, it is impossible? If you owned everything on earth you still would not be an avogadrillion-aire.

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Easiest way to become an avogadrillionaire is to start with 2 avogadrillions.

Not impossible, but you would need to geometrically explode the need for money (civilization) beforehand. In a few million years, (i.e. not impossible) the molleionaire will be the elite class of galactic citizen.

Yes, yes it is impossible. And I'm sure ChatGPT could easily tell you why.

I've been proven wrong. I will now delete my initial comment.

The person you're responding to didn't understand your original comment, I don't think they're capable of understanding this one either.

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