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How do you get the idea that migration is "planned"? You've lost the plot entirely

Someone must be funding the NGOs organizing it all.

George Soros, probably

I wouldn’t be surprised looking at his historical track record of funding NGOs with specific angles and what he said.

it was a joke, to be clear

In reality it’s not a joke though. Soros is one of the biggest politically minded donors of the last few decades.

One example is HIAS who runs a fully staffed Darién Gap facility. As soon as there is a friendly administration to mass migration - they just flip a switch and we will have 10 millions of migrants. I don't want to come across as MAGA, because I am a non voter - the Republicans fuel the fire with forever wars. Its really two sides of the same coin. Companies benefit, because when there is no social cohesion workers are less likely to Unionize.

"Tens of millions"? Really?

Even if we take 20 million, that's 75% of the total population of Venezuela or half of the population of Colombia. There simply are not enough people in South America for these kinds of numbers.

Chuck Schumer:

>“We have a population that is not reproducing on its own with the same level that it used to. The only way we’re going to have a great future in America is if we welcome and embrace immigrants – the Dreamers and all of them, because our ultimate goal is to help the Dreamers but [also] to get a path to citizenship for all 11 million or however many undocumented there are here,”

Chuck Schumer, who is massively understating the number of illegals here, puts it at at least 11M. So yeah tens of millions is a realistic ballpark.

That 11M represents decades of migration. It's not getting tripled with the flip of a switch.

12.2 million Mexicans live in California alone.

Mexican heritage, yes. Mexican citizenship without US citizenship, very much no.

And 50 million never bothered to learn English? Here for decades? I have a bridge to sell you Dylan.

The bridge is that 50 million number that just appeared, yeah. Where did you get that?

Is that the number of people that don't have English as their first language? Almost all of that group does speak English.

People with a legal right to vote.

As planned by whom?

The Epstein class. Bankers, Zionists who lost their civilization and Temple 2000 years ago:

A good google search to view art owned by one family: "Artist funded by de Rothschild's depicts racial violence and rape themes"

This take is oversimplified to where it’s literally scary - heres an honest book about the Rothchilds Bankers and Zionists with the additional context I hope you incorporate.

https://ia601309.us.archive.org/20/items/historyDEEPWEB/The%...

I've read it. A follow for you could be Jews vs Rome - Netanyahu recommended this with a review: "we lost that one, we won't lose the next one"

Another follow on for you could be the question of the origins of the Slave Trade: Jews and Negro Slavery in the Old South - 1789-1865.

The root of all western Ethnic issues are Zionists.

Telling me some art depicts a bad thing tells me next to nothing about the merits of that art.

Immigrants don’t get a vote in many countries

For example Europeans were excluded from the Brexit vote

Voting in these countries takes place largely along ethnic lines.

Go look at maps of "if only X demographic voted", there is a clear incentive for certain parties to import people just because changing the ethnic makeup of the country will give them political power (immigrants have kids who are citizens and will vote along their ethnic lines).

Additionally there are efforts to naturalize refugees and illegals:

Chuck Schumer:

"We have a population that is not reproducing on its own with the same level that it used to. The only way we’re going to have a great future in America is if we welcome and embrace immigrants – the Dreamers and all of them, because our ultimate goal is to help the Dreamers but [also] to get a path to citizenship for all 11 million or however many undocumented there are here"

"Path to citizenship" here implies that he wants them to be able to vote.

https://cis.org/Arthur/Schumer-Calls-DREAM-Amnesty

1.) Migration is constant and big topic.

2.) Democracy happens to be destroyed by local far right movements, composed of people who were there for years and did not migrated anywhere.

The extend of foreign destruction is Vance trying to destroy democracy in Europe openly, Putin doing it secretly and Musk openly enciting pogroms. None of them immigrated to EU.

Mainstream parties could take a hard stance on immigration and destroy „far right movements“ overnight. But somehow they are not interested in saving the democracy, instead they prefer to ignore hot topics and pretend they don’t exist. Hmmm, maybe it is this ignorance destroying the democracy?

> Mainstream parties could take a hard stance on immigration and destroy „far right movements“ overnight.

No they would not. It would just empower far right to make further demands as everything shifted toward them. And you can even see it practically, each time mainstream parties move toward right, far right becomes stronger. Meanwhile, anti-far-right voters end up without anyone to vote for.

Becoming far right yourself does not cure far right, it makes far right stronger. Far right voters wont vote for you, why would they? And voting for you achieves nothing, you wont oppose far right anyway.

> Hmmm, maybe it is this ignorance destroying the democracy?

No, it is far right who is openly trying to destroy democracy. And helping them wont save the democracy. Blaming mainstream or left for what far-right does also does not help democracy.

How come? Mainstream parties are openly ignoring one of the main concerns of a big block of voters. Then some parties start catering for that concern. That’s pure democracy feedback loop in action.

Maybe you don't talk to rightoids enough. They get braver every day. Things they wouldn't openly say 10 years ago are said in the open now. Just pausing immigration will do nothing. Some of them want blood and to ruin a large group of people. Others don't "want" this, but will do nothing if it happens.

Maybe some of „good“ parties should start playing this democracy game and address some worries of the people? Mainstream parties are destroying democracy by ignoring the voters. Or flat-out lying by pretending they do address those worries and then doing 180 right after the elections. E.g. what CDU/CSU did in Germany. I wonder why AFD is doing so well...

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