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Interesting: the Russians are calling "our partners", "our would-be enemies" now. They're not even pretending anymore. Given that this steady parade of seemingly-planted and promoted derogatory anti-Western stories that has been happening for years originates from You Know Where, it's a revelation that the Russian establishment and secret services are not even pretending anymore.

It should also be pointed out that Kirill and the Russian Orthodox Church have been understood to have been cat's paws for Russia's notorious KGB successor agencies for a very long time now.

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All very true, and an important point about ROC/KGB ties, but

> the Russians are calling "our partners", "our would-be enemies" now.

is a total wind vane which can flip 180° in a matter of days (if not minutes, as in Orwell's scene where they seamlessly switch from being at war with Eurasia to that with Eastasia)...

to channel lord palmerston, "no permanent friends, no permanent enemies, only interests"

Come on, Russian "страна наиболее вероятного противника" (the country of the most likely enemy) was always the military name of the US since the Cold War. Now used in military texts and also as a sarcastic cliché

Moreover, it's adversary, not enemy.

The Russians seem to refer to most people not helping them as enemies. Often as nazis too.

Exactly. Russians seem to understand the word "Nazis" is a less-literate way than the rest of the world.

"Nazi" -- in Russia -- means anybody that Russia hates, resents, is jealous of, or otherwise dislikes. Anybody not explicitly in Russia's thrall is "anti-Russian", considered an enemy, and is hence labelled a "Nazi".

Coincidentally, this "Whoever isn't with us, is against us" thinking is a hallmark of fascist regimes like the actual Nazi Germany, where it was an article of faith.

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Ad-hominem attack.

Can you do better?

No ad hominem, just meme post because ironically post about nazis operates with made up national stereotypes.

You're saying that calling people you disagree with "Nazis" was invented by Russia? Well, in that case, a lot of people better start paying royalties.

Stupid generalization, just like propagandist stereotypes about obese redneck Americans and perverted Europeans.

Only propagandists and their victims can throw rocks like this without any discernment.

Any nation is a collection of vastly different personalities, out of whom one could of course pick a group with sought after characteristics, but taking one such group and extending its characteristics to the whole nation is beyond stupid.

It's OK if you implied "Russian government", but that better be explicit.

I was thinking Russian government and propagandists, especially Putin. BBC going on about it https://youtu.be/2gNp0PfK0CI

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