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Thank you, this is a huge pet peeve of mine. I mis-click my airpod and suddenly this app I've never used and don't want launches

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> this app I've never used and don't want launches

I'm by no way an Apple fan, but why not uninstall the app if you don't need it?

It cannot be uninstalled

I only recently discovered that not only can you not uninstall Apple's bloatware - you can't even hide it in a folder!

I just can't understand why I have to have my list of useful apps interspersed with cruft like Books.app or Journal.app.

The (shitty) logic here is that you don’t ‘own’ the OS, but merely rent it, so “deal with it”

You can disable the control that prevents deleting the app (SIP).

SIP is only one part of this, you also would need to disable SSV.

cough cough hey EU you hearing this shit?

If you for whatever reason do not want the security benefits offered by SIP, you can turn it off.

Of course, doing so just to get rid of Apple Music would tend to be a bit crazy.

I'd say having to turn off System Integrity Protection as a prerequisite to uninstalling a music player is crazy. Spoken as someone who likes MacOS and Apple Music.

The Apple Music thing bothers me and adds friction to my life every single day that I use MacOS.

We're on a tech forum where everyone here is aware (or at least can understand) how SIP is useful for the security model on MacOS. But for plenty of people with this problem, SIP is only the thing you learn can disable so you can immediately make your life a little better.

The crazy ones are Apple here, since this problem should not require disabling SIP to fix.

^ How can you make such an obviously wrong statement?

Drag Music app to Trash, and that it! Like you do with any other app.

You can not do this on MacOS, at least on MacOS 26 on Apple Silicon without SIP disabled. I was:

- Unable to drag from the Applications drawer to Trash

- Unable to drag from the Spotlight search to Trash

- Unable to drag from Finder (in ~/Applications) to Trash

- Unable to delete (in Finder)

- Unable to delete (through rm in terminal).

This has been a bother for years across MacOS versions and I've tried variations of these, personally.

In the future, you might consider not denigrating others in this way. It is hard to save face when you are wrong. And it is hard for others to provide an avenue for you to save face while also pointing out that your statements are not true.

I hope this is a joke. You cannot delete it. It's considered "system" software.

That doesn't work on my machine. Maybe it worked back in the snow leopard days.

Now the app doesn't even have the "move to trash" item in the contextual menu like non-system apps do

^ How can you make such an obviously wrong statement

Go ahead and try. It's not like "any other app".

As a non power of Mac (only recently switched), I'll definitely try this.

My repeated attempts to remove from Dock and hide it all failed: half the time I remove my ear buds the Apple Music pops up in the middle of my screen and auto-enables itself in the Dock...

The Dock just contains a bunch of shortcuts. The app itself lives in the /Applications folder along with the rest of them that you can choose to add to your dock (by just dragging them down there and letting a spot open up for it).

Same! And there is no obvious close button etc on the overtop blocking modal dialog either. It’s a dark pattern.

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