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Writing articles by hand isn’t just smart— it’s important. No shortcuts. No filler. No excuses.

Key insight: relying on AI for writing assistance helps neither the author nor the audience.

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> Writing articles by hand isn’t just smart— it’s important. No shortcuts. No filler. No excuses.

You're absolutely right! Would you like to delve into more issues like this one?

It was incredibly refreshing to read an honest story, warts and all, written by a human. And equally infuriating to read a comment about it written by AI.

I had assumed the comment you’re responding to is tongue in cheek but it’s honestly hard to tell sometimes.

It is, it’s designed to invoke rage over ChatGPT speak as an example of how awful it is to read.

Ironically saying "isn’t just smart— it’s important" (complete with em-dash!) and "No shortcuts. No filler. No excuses." sounds very AI-generated.

Not saying it is, just pointing out how messed up the world we live in now is.

But... was it?

It reads as clear ironic AI speak.

i have a feeling that the fp was being sarcastic / satirical.

"You're absolutely right for pushing back on that!"

But, allow me to complete the sandwich.

I want a "You're absolutely right to be upset!" printed on a shirt.

You're absolutely right to be upset by this t-shirt!

that's the joke

Aw, poops. It got flagged :-(

Even LLMs have better sense of humor than HN readers.

I laughed

That's a really great point, and shows a deep understanding of how consistently humorless HN users are! If you want, I can show several more examples of people knee-jerk downvoting things that are actually pretty funny.

There's always been a general pushback on HN against turning threads into a series of quippy oneliners. It tends toward having a serious discussion about a topic, rather than farming low-effort humour for upvotes. I consider this a good thing, as there are plenty of other places where that is rewarded.

I agree though from my experience on HN people tend to upvote these funny quips instead of abstaining. Yet generally when I write something meaningful I get meaningful replies in return sans upvotes and I treasure those much more.

I still cling on to the quaint idea that "upvote" means "adds meaningfully and coherently to the discussion", while "downvote" means the opposite. So not "I agree with this" or "that made me chuckle" but rather "this enhances the conversation" - and especially if it's a well written argument I disagree with because that might make me learn or rethink my position. Humour in a well argued point is very welcome, of course.

Wish and reality aren't in alignment here but some places like HN or /r/AskHistorians are my refuges.

That's not how it works at all. In general I've noticed that many of the things I say might remain neutral or get some upvotes, and then get flagged and downvoted as soon as the USA wakes up. So I think here it is very very much based on agreement.

Yeah it seems harmless in isolation, but I'm pretty sure that lacking a norm against it it is one of the ways you end up with Reddit. And because HN doesn't have an actual anti-humour rule, in the best case it lets the funnier and more creative stuff through while punishing the obvious one-liners and boilerplate jokes that everyone would be clamouring to make first on a Reddit thread. (I don't want to be rude, but the thing where someone writes stereotypical AI speak in an ironic context has been done a billion times and doesn't need to be done again, unless it comes with an interesting twist or unusually sharp execution.)

> I don't want to be rude, but the thing where someone writes stereotypical AI speak in an ironic context has been done a billion times and doesn't need to be done again

Yeah. As the person who triggered this subthread by not detecting the attempt at "humor", the last thing we need is a version of Poe's Law for AI slop.

Ya otherwise the one-liners/jokes drown out actual discussion since they attract a lot of votes

Many HNers have their sense of humor removed, when they get their first colonoscopy.

I still crack jokes, anyway. Get the occasional downvote, but life’s too short…

That’s the unlock.

And honestly, you're brave to point that out.

Now it all comes together. Want the wrap-up?

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