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I do like how the wayland usage statistic are based on wayland apps crashing more than x11 apps

Crash reports are only mentioned as confirmation of other statistics, and in any case, the vast majority of crashes have nothing to do with the window system used.

The other "stats" being "all my buddies use Wayland".

Instead of rage baiting you could have just read the blog post to figure out its opt in telemetry, crash reports (most of which won't be x11/Wayland related) is being used as an additional metric to confirm that trend.

Linux users are more likely not to opt-in and actively opt-out of spyware, telemetry, or whatever you want to call it.

The ones that don't are more likely those who leave things on defaults, are involved with the project or a distro, or similar. No, I don't have anything that backs this up. The statistics they're using can never be accurate, by virtue of being free software that ships on privacy concious distros to privacy cincious people. There was a study that backs up this claim, but I'm not google.

OTOH, xfce is doing fine.

Linux are also more likely to contribute bug reports and crash dumps.

Security conscious doesn't mean not getting involved with the community and helping useful projects.

Linux users contribute bug reports to projects that actually care about them and don't leave usability regressions open to decade long bikesheds. KDE is not one of those projects.

Since KDE telemetry is privacy conscious too, I as a privacy conscious linux user see little issue with enabling it.

privacy concious people use wayland

How do you get that?

They showed the statistics based on their telemetry tools and said they match crash data.

Not that it was 100% from crashes.

Also the fact they can tell which one is in use does not mean that’s the reason it crashed. It could be crashes due to bad network handling or file corruption or something that has nothing to do with the GUI.

And the statistics are only from the latest release, not over all KDE users. They mention this in the text but the disengenuous plot is what people see.

>For transparency, the one caveat in all of the above is that I've deliberately always focused on people using the latest Plasma release. We do still have a sizable chunk of users on X11 still using Plasma 5.27. Including them, the total Wayland adoption rate is about 76%.

Yeah, and considering how KDE developers have been introducing bugs for X11 as their main strategy for Wayland to reach feature parity I expect many X11 users are holding out upgrades as long as possible.

can you provide ANYTHING to back up that claim?

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