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Altman does appear to be an asshole, but I have bad news for you if you think Anthropic are the good guys. If anything, they might be worse than OpenAI.

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Can you elaborate or give some examples as to why? I dont know much about this subject, last i heard, Anthropic declined deals with Military and government agencies - while OpenAI opened their arms. But i am not

Anthropic believes they are the only people who should control AI.

That alone is terrible. Also OpenAI has done actual work to try and mitigate the downstream negatives effects with UBI experiments.

Sam isn’t perfect but it’s deeply unclear that he’s worse

> Anthropic believes they are the only people who should control AI.

I’ve seen this a few times in the thread. Can you or anyone provide a link that supports this claim?

This seems to be a rumor being coordinated by OpenAI.

There's OpenAI employees spreading this rumor on Twitter with 0 evidence. Their entire evidence is "I keep hearing Anthropic wants to control AI". Their evidence is literal rumors.

https://x.com/_aidan_clark_/status/2052089187659346047

Yeah. And this thread seems so astroturfed. I get the feeling openAI is trying this sort of propaganda campaign out now that theyre desperate

I wouldn't say Anthropic is worse than OpenAI, but there's a lot wrong with them. https://anthropic.ml/ has a collection of incidents and relevant evidence.

Isn’t that site just loudly proclaiming that “pushing the frontier” of AI is inherently anti-social and that employees should be asking the public to “shut us all down” ?

That’s their core argument against Anthropic, that they are making progress at improving their models ?

What makes you think Anthropic might be worse than OpenAI? Anything specific, or just vibes?

Is there any argument to back that up or are you just hoping to self-actualize this belief using vibes alone?

What makes you say that

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