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The first step would be indeed to join forces with UK, in order to don't be two entities, which is very unnatural to me.

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That Brexit ship sailed. It’s very difficult to do anything with the UK currently.

No, we don’t need US’s Trojan horse in the EU

Interesting. Could you elaborate. As a pro Europe Brit I'm interested to understand this viewpoint. Is it a widely held perspective do you know?

I think that while y'all were appreciated members and definitely had a lot to offer, you also had a lot of annoying carve-outs and kept stalling needed measures to federalize and strengthen the EU more so we can be a proper superpower in our own right.

Maybe it's good you left for now, maybe we can finally get these things done. And once that's accomplished and enough of the gammon has died off, you can always rejoin :-)

The UK was a useful stalking horse for lots of smaller countries to push back against federalisation, it's not just them.

They also have the obvious place for any common EU market (which is desperately needed). Brexit has been bad for everyone involved.

Sure, but the smaller countries don't have the political capital to resist federalization long term like the Brits did.

Exactly, well put!

Jumping in and most people in Germany wouldnt see UK as an American trojan hourse. I dont think anti American countries like France and Danemark have a problem with UK being in the EU per se.

I can see most people want that UK wouldnt just get special treatment any more.

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