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> First, enforcing a youth social media ban raises major ethical concerns. Enforcement efforts invade people’s privacy and are likely to hurt marginalized people more. For example, the technology that determines age based on selfie uploads makes more mistakes with young faces and people of color. Banned youth may also miss out on important resources and communications provided via social media, as schools, clubs, and most other youth-serving organizations use social media as a main form of communication.

Really grasping the straws with this argument...

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The crux of the issue for a parent is that social media orgs do not require and should not receive access to my children, and there simply aren't any arguments from their position that address my concerns.

And there won't be, because the safest, cheapest, and most easily implemented solution is a moderated Kindernet they can't monetize and won't have access to.

So every conversation becomes a list of corner cases that look bizarre from a parenting point of view because these platforms are in no way essential. The answer to your quote is that the schools and clubs that aren't also handing out flyers would hand out flyers again. There's no scenario where scanning my preteen improves this process.

You can demonstrate the severity of the situation at family gatherings by asking the kid's table how many beheadings they've seen.

No, the crux is a unregulated harmful market is unregulated.

We have lots of rules that just arnt being enforced. instead, we do think that won't make a dent and are draconian dystopian surveillance state because we refuse to curtail the grift economy.

What a terrible argument. When social media is banned support material for those young people is distributed via other channels because, surprisingly, those providing support know that social media os no longer a viable policy.

An invasion of privacy is similarly a particularly vapid argument. Youth are not being invited to participate in social media once it is banned, there is no reach into their private realm and where face age estimation is being used that is data which is being provided willingly and with an understanding of its intended purpose. That in and of itself is not an invasion of privacy.

I will be quite surprised if these claims every make it past peer review and withstand scrutiny by the other social scientists who recommended social media onboarding delays.

Yeah, it really hurts to read. So many decent arguments andthe author goes for the foot-gun.

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