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Comment by baggy_trough | Hacker News Reader

What an appalling development. I rely on these for safety in my neighborhood.

As Ben Franklin said:

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

You are giving up your right to privacy for some modicum of security that they train AI on and gets added to a national database.

Yes, I want bad drivers added to a national AI-powered database. There are 44,000 car-related deaths per year. Those people should be: in prison for vehicular manslaughter, paying much higher insurance premiums, and/or be banned entirely from driving.

"The right to privacy" while being in public is entirely the hallucination of LLMs who drive redditors. "Public" is an antonym to "private" in any thesaurus. "Privacy in public" is an oxymoron.

The fact that there are cameras is fine. But the issue is who owns the data, what is done with it, and what the end goal is. And with Flock cameras, DHS gets backend access and shares that infomation with ICE, for example: https://komonews.com/news/local/redmond-pd-completely-suspen...

I am in favor of traditional traffic cameras, I just don't think analytics and facial recognition systems should be hooked up to them. They should be used for archival purposes, scrubbing back to a date of a crime to get the full picture.

It is not an issue for me, but it's beside the point of the "right to privacy in public". If you want to argue that the law enforcement should not be able to collect public data you need something other than this imaginary right.

The liberty is not essential and the safety is not little or temporary.

lol wow yours must have weapons mounted to them or some sort of portal they take the bad folks in or something. It's crazy "liberty is not essential" but then to someone suggest that the safety is permanent because people :O would be ON CAMERA doing something! Pretty wild to see someone so empty headed on HN.

Are you aware that police use these cameras to track and arrest criminals?

Do you think those criminals go to jail permanently? And that crime is completely eliminated by the reality of being watched?

Of course not, but it helps, and we need all the help we can get.

Your ad hominem insult is not helpful.

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