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> The people who rely on it are not cool.

That's the only statement that's true. Admiting to AI use is unfashionable in the western world at this time.

But how much would you like to bet that 90% of those students who were booing also used AI to do their homework for them quite often? So your take away would be "the AI stole their education". No, they were dishonest and the AI helped them cheat themselves out of learning.

Technology doesn't make anything banal or a hellscape, or fire people. Technology is a lever.

If humans use AI to produce worse output because they are too lazy to bother reviewing and iterating on it, that is a human problem. If humans are going to use AI to help them exploit other humans more efficiently, that is also caused by the human rather than the technology.

Also, the ChatGPT moment for humanoid robots is coming this year or next. It will become very obvious that AI use in these robots is not just superficially plausible text.

> But how much would you like to bet that 90% of those students who were booing also used AI to do their homework for them quite often? So your take away would be "the AI stole their education". No, they were dishonest and the AI helped them cheat themselves out of learning.

This is like saying a smoker can't criticize the tobacco industry. It's entirely possible to recognize that AI in school is a huge problem while (hypothetically, in this case) still using it. Indeed, if enough of your peers are using it and you do not, you are effectively being punished for being virtuous. It's a lot like being the one cyclist in the Tour de France who isn't doping.

Similarly, if your peers aren't able to keep a conversation going in a seminar because they had AI do their reading and assignments for them, then you, as a student, are having your education stolen from you in a very real way. Education is something that happens in community. When enough of your community is using AI, your education will suffer.

Again that is a problem with the group of people and how they use technology rather than the technology itself.

I will die on this hill: AI _properly_ integrated into education will be a huge improvement for students because it will enable each student to have personalized instruction and tutoring.

> AI _properly_ integrated into education will be a huge improvement for students because it will enable each student to have personalized instruction and tutoring.

This is a fine thing to wish for. But literally every AI company today wants their customers to use AI as much as possible.

I, too, would like to live in a world where AI is only _properly_ integrated into education. But that is impossible without limiting its improper integration. An no AI company wants any limits on AI.

A quarter of the answers Gemini gives me are made up. What would be the purpose of such, uh, “instruction”?

Will they get AI to stop lying first?

exactly! if you _properly_ integrate this argument into Scotland, _then_ it will be a true scotsman, otherwise definitely not!

Smokers can criticize. But they also have to face the cancer that will personally affect them. And hopefully take accountability for it.

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