You know, this comments page saddens me. I came to hacker news years ago because every single post had careful, intelligent discussion. Countless times people clearly put their emotions aside and carefully followed the guidelines - be kind, don’t be snarky, be substantive, and when refuting a position don’t say that’s idiotic; say 1+1 does not equal 3.

Shock about the standards that led to cybertruck wheels falling off? Totally right. Discussion about Tesla engineering practices, servicing and business operations, and the influence of their leader on product - absolutely.

But statements like “No one is hauling anything in these anyway. The Cybertruck is a midlife crisis car for white-collar Indian dudes with money.” (Which, to be fair, was flagged so 100% thank you to the community)… or another user I won’t name who has multiple 3-4 word replies like “no it can’t” which is totally helpful in a discussion, are growing.

I know this is a messy topic; hate on the cybertruck and Tesla overall is high and we are all in a different headspace vs pre-covid. And I still come to hacker news because this is the best discussion forum left… but I’m sad about what we’ve lost along the way.