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This is a website mainly targeted towards adults, you are allowed to use the word "kill" without fearing a ban or censorship.

> This is a website mainly targeted towards adults, you are allowed to use the word "kill" without fearing a ban or censorship.

So we should "Kill" a CEO because you cannot temporarily accept a ToS to backup your photos and move to another platform?

Wild.

> Apple is committing extortion

The 5GB is also free so how is this extortion?

> but a class action suit or an organised protest may raise awareness.

It won't, just don't use Apple devices.

The comment you are replying to did not say we should kill a CEO, it said we are adults and if we are talking about killing a CEO we should use the word kill and not some self-censored euphemism.

Still, that particular conversation trail is still bewildering in and of itself when talking in the context of a terms of service.

It is a statement which isn't considered normal.

I mean:

"Apple is committing extortion", " class action suit", "protest", "Luigi the CEO"

All because of a terms of service, this isn't normal behavior for a mind to wander into if the solution is to accept the "terms of service".

I'm having a hard time understanding where the miscommunication is. What I'm saying is: not allowing a user to access their pictures without accepting a change in the terms of service is bad. A renegotiation of terms of a contract when one party has all the power (Apple, who has the pictures the user took and the user cares about) is inherently unfair and it should be just as easy for the user to say 'I don't agree, give me back my pictures and I'll stop using your service' as it is to say 'I agree and will keep using your service'.

It is why I'm not buying the Steam Controller, you need a user account, software running in the background and you need to accept the terms and services of Valve before you are able to use it. That is just unacceptable to me. Other controllers don't have all that.

Yeah, if SC Controller adds support for the Steam Controller 2, I'll be more inclined to get it.

EDIT: Though I read that the SC2 works like a regular controller if you just plug it in without Steam, so at least that's positive.

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